LGBs and TERs

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Unread post24 Sep 2007, 16:14

I was wondering...
Do small 500lbs LGBs get carried on TERs? Ive only seen them carried in pairs. If they dont get carried in TERs, why not? Is it cause they dont fit?
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Unread post24 Sep 2007, 18:48

GBU-12 LGB's are carried on TER's in a slant load (lower and outboard) but not the inboard due to clearance issues with the fins. GBU-38 JDAM's are not carried on TER's because there is no data link cable. Two can be carried on the BRU-57.
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Unread post24 Sep 2007, 18:53

Loader2088 wrote:GBU-12 LGB's are carried on TER's in a slant load (lower and outboard) but not the inboard due to clearance issues with the fins. GBU-38 JDAM's are not carried on TER's because there is no data link cable. Two can be carried on the BRU-57.


GBU-38's are not carried because the TER-9's are not Smart Weapon capable, gotta have 1760. Your correct on the slant loadings.

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Unread post25 Sep 2007, 07:43

Thanks for the quick replies.
Whats the 1760?
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Unread post25 Sep 2007, 12:51

Mil-Standard 1760...Smart weapons Mux bus.

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Unread post25 Sep 2007, 14:05

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/e ... d-1760.htm

Early in Operation Northern Watch we used two GBU 12's mounted on parent stations, to cut down on drag and give more in country loiter time.
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Unread post15 Feb 2008, 08:21

Hello.....this question regarding FMU 139 /B settings for the GBU 12. As we all know, there are two columns on faceplate for FMU 139 /B. Low Drag Arm Time and High Drag Arm/Delay columns,what are the purposes of each column and is there any special rules must follow in order to make sure these fuze working properly...Tq.
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Unread post15 Feb 2008, 17:22

SYAQIERA wrote:Hello.....this question regarding FMU 139 /B settings for the GBU 12. As we all know, there are two columns on faceplate for FMU 139 /B. Low Drag Arm Time and High Drag Arm/Delay columns,what are the purposes of each column and is there any special rules must follow in order to make sure these fuze working properly...Tq.


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Unread post01 Feb 2010, 16:30

Hi. i have a question about dropping two or more GBU-12 lazer guided bombs from F-16 aircraft on the same target and at the same time, is that possible? i know it is a non-logic choice but i need a practical answer?
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Unread post02 Feb 2010, 04:08

Two LGBs on the same target can be done but with today's LGBs being so lethal it's not done very often unless you're hitting a hardened layered target or you wanna make sure the target (human or otherwise) is well and truly killed. No more than 2 should be enough but it depends on the situation. Not sure what the second bomb would do if it loses the spot in the debris cloud. Maybe reverts to a ballistic path? Maybe has a backup GPS guidance mode? I'm shrugging. :shrug:

Two 500 pound LGBs were delivered in rapid succession and with a cheery disposition to Zarqawi's Iraqi chalet back in 2006.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqKg1ZL-thw (impact at 30 sec.) :twisted:
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Unread post02 Feb 2010, 07:24

LinkF16SimDude, I was about to reference the Zarqawi strike myself, but I am almost 100% certain it was one LGB and one JDAM, if memory serves. So, you strike with the LGB first, and then with the JDAM you don't have to worry about any debris field obscuring the target.
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Unread post03 Feb 2010, 04:10

Wow, two of ANYTHING like that would certainly lay a world of hurt on the intended target! :shock:
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Unread post03 Feb 2016, 00:38

How can the A-10 carry 3 GBU-12s on a TER while the Viper can't? Airspeed?

Pictured in this awesome air refueling photo is an A-10C of the 75th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron "Tiger Sharks", 23rd Fighter Group, 23rd Wing (ACC), Moody AFB, Georgia, currently combat deployed to Incirlik AB, Turkey, in support of Operation Inherent Resolve (OIR). Loaded on station 8 are three GBU-12 Paveway II laser guided bombs (LGB) on a Triple Ejector Rack (TER). Loaded on station 4 is a GBU-38 joint attack munition (JDAM). (U.S. Air Force photo)
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Unread post03 Feb 2016, 02:13

Best part is it shows......wait for it.....an A-10 with GBUs and JDAMs. Missing in the video is the TGP. So the indispensable A-10 is carrying the same ordnance as the F-16. Dropping them from medium altitude, just like the F-16. Using the same TGP as the F-16. Getting there way slower than the F-16. Unable to defend itself if there were an air threat. Struggling to stay up there at medium altitude, hence the efforts for years to uprate the engines on the A-10. And that big gun is just sitting there causing weight and drag because they are dropping GBUs and JDAMs like everybody else from MEDIUM ALTITUDE. With way less TAS to give the bombs a better opportunity to maneuver if needed. And wait for it....STANDOFF CAS.

Gosh we sure are messing up getting rid of the slow F-16 with no radar, or A/A capability....A-10.
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Unread post04 Feb 2016, 17:06

ruderamronbo wrote:How can the A-10 carry 3 GBU-12s on a TER while the Viper can't? Airspeed?

Pictured in this awesome air refueling photo is an A-10C of the 75th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron "Tiger Sharks", 23rd Fighter Group, 23rd Wing (ACC), Moody AFB, Georgia, currently combat deployed to Incirlik AB, Turkey, in support of Operation Inherent Resolve (OIR). Loaded on station 8 are three GBU-12 Paveway II laser guided bombs (LGB) on a Triple Ejector Rack (TER). Loaded on station 4 is a GBU-38 joint attack munition (JDAM). (U.S. Air Force photo)


Because inner side mounted GBU-12 could damage wing mounted(4,6 station) fuel tank and even fuselage.

Thrust and airspeed is not problem, cause F-16 can take-off with M1MJFQY(2 AMRAAM, 2 AIM-9, 2 JDAM, 2 Fuel Tank, ALQ-200, 20mm HEI 512RDS with full magazine of Chaff, Flare).
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