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BROOKS CITY-BASE, Texas - About 150 Airmen from Brooks City-Base, Lackland and Randolph Air Force Bases in Texas, will participate in a fit test of the new Air Force Heritage service dress coat here Jan. 28 - Feb. 1.

Subsequent fit tests in February and March are slated for the Air Force Academy and Maxwell-Gunter AFB, Ala. prior to an official wear test period scheduled for this summer.

The initiative to replace the current Air Force service dress coat was inaugurated in 2006 by Gen. T. Michael Moseley, Air Force Chief of Staff.

"Only the service coat is being replaced," said Capt. Jonathan Pellum, Heritage Coat program manager for the 648th Aeronautical Systems Squadron here. "General Moseley wanted the coat updated to reflect Air Force heritage."

The 648th AESS, part of the 77th Aeronautical Systems Group, is tasked with conducting the series of fit tests for Airmen.

"Once we complete the fit test at Maxwell, we will be able to provide initial data by May to the Air Force Chief of Staff," Captain Pellum said. "This data will determine if changes or modifications to the coat are needed before the garment is wear tested. About 200 active-duty members Air Force-wide will test wear the new coat."

The Air Force Uniform Program Office at Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio, is responsible for making modifications to the new coat that currently is a 55 percent polyester/45 percent wool blend.

According to a story by Staff Sergeant J.G. Buzanowski from the Secretary of the Air Force Public Affairs Office, the new service coat has gone through several prototypes. Air Force leaders have since settled on a design similar to the uniform worn by Gen. Henry "Hap" Arnold during World War II.

In Sergeant Buzanowki's story, Brig. Gen. Floyd L. Carpenter, Airmen Development and Sustainment director, said, "We tried several design variations with different lapel styles and sizes, with and without buttons, belted and unbelted, as well as versions with a wide variety of pocket configurations. The prototype coat being tested pulls the strongest mix of detail preferences into one coat and combines them with the latest in textile assembly industry."

General Carpenter said the Air Force Uniform Board will make the decision on final coat modifications. General Moseley has final approval on the new design prior to its production. Captain Pellum estimates, if the program becomes mandatory, the initial cost to be $125 million to manufacture the new coat for the active and Reserve components.

The captain said the Air Force Honor Guard will be among the first to receive the new coat.

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http://www.military.com/features/0,1524 ... C=dod-b.nl

I just though it would be funny to post this photo(again). It’s not the “coat” in the article. Wink

Possible captions.

1: Snazzy is not necessarily a good thing.
(Especially when you're around an enemy or crewman with guns.)

2: New Navy flight jacket.

3: ELVIS didn't die, he just became an aviator

4: I really don't care for the new military much myself.

5: The problem with the don't ask don't tell policy, is often no one has to say anything to tell whom different.

The brief itself can be found here (right click, save as) (with more photos) (power point) but highlights are provided below: warning some vulgarities

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The evidence

(Friday, October 15, 2004)

Wallys jacket is found unattended in Bldg 797 classroom by fellow aviator.
Attempts to locate Wally are unsuccessful.

Jacket is placed in Training Officers locker for safe-keeping until Wally and his patch-saturated jacket are properly reunited.

(Thursday, October 21, 2004 8:15am )
Wally sends an e-mail to all VS-41 inferring that the jacket has been stolen. He claims to have had it in his possession just last night.

(E-mail of Thursday, October 21, 2004)
Last night at 1600 I left my flight jacket where I left it for the past 6 months, on the back of my chair in room 202 in bldg 797. When I came in this morning at 0730 it was missing.
(The jacket had been in the TOs locker for 6 days at this point)

The Charges-
Failure to accept responsibility for his own actions when he lost positive control of his @$ap.
Not once did he ever mention that the jacket might have been lost or misplaced.
Implying that there are thieves among your co-workers is not very neighborly.
Acting like a Drama-Queen in describing the loss of his jacket and patches.
Specifically,

(E-mail of Thursday, October 21, 2004)
If you might know where it is Id really appreciate getting it back, its irreplaceable and it serves a personal memento of my operational experience.

Sounds like youre describing your cruise sock
The penalty assessed -
If you want to act like a whiny broad, you might as well dress like one too

Source
www.neptunuslex.com/2007/04/03/understa ... e-culture/

It is funny to some extent. Not that I approve of this type of shenanigans, as it was somewhat immature vengeful vandalism

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Yeah, that's a good one Smile

Sorry to have beat you to it Wink

Understanding the Culture

Ohhhhh! It's got a belt. What else is new??

Truthfully, I like this one better.

I'd like the first, (WITHOUT the belt!) more like LeMay's mighty USAF of the 50's and 60's! .More like the ones we had before we had to be "more modern."

The bottom one is too retro, and too "wanna-be-Marine" like... WTF

First we aren't modern enough, then we need to look more military and honor our heritage' I'm afraid to ask what's next? Shrug

I just wanna know what dork decorates his 45/P jacket? I only wear that f*ckin thing when I absolutely HAVE TO, like when it's cold and rainy at the same time. It's too d@mn hot for cool weather, and doesn't keep you warm enough for cold weather. If you're a Navy jock, try decorating your LEATHER jacket, like every other self-respecting Navy flier. The AF only lets us put our wings and a MAJCOM patch on our A-2, which is a MUCH beter jacket, I might add. Nicer to wear than the 45/P...and it gets you nice looks from the ladies!

Yeah, I think the belt will be a temporary thing on our new Service Coat. Too many fat field grade officers and senior NCOs to keep that belt. Too many folks in the AF would look like bread dough baking, even with our "enhanced", "mandatory" (and I use that term EXTREMELY loosely) PT program. It'll be tested, and then the belts will go away, kinda like the "Hawaii Shirt" ABUs from a few years ago.

P!$$ on McPeak! If it hadn't been for him, we wouldn't even have this thread going. But we'd also might still have TAC, SAC, MAC, AFLC, and AFSC.

McPeak started all this sh*t when he was PACAF commander in the mid eighties, he didn't believe in the Guard or the Reserves or civil service, what do we have now, total force... this Air Force is run by a bunch of fighter jocks, period. Gen. LeMay and Hap would be livid if they seen this sh*t.

Here is a good one from El Captian @ Dude Where's the Beach?

Couldn't resist posting it again... LMAO

Is every Air Force Chief of Staff a frustrated tailor or fashion designer?

asiatrails wrote:

Is every Air Force Chief of Staff a frustrated tailor or fashion designer?

Maybe they're wives are making them watch the fashion designer shows on Bravo......

Wow, the air force is hurting for money, and we need to change uniforms. Is it nessary?? I mean in 9 years i have worn my blues 5 times. Lets see how we can waste more money? Any ideas??

KILL IT!!!! KILL IT NOW!!!

Its funny just like others have said, we ( the Air Force ) has money to design new uniforms but I cant get money to buy new 55 gallon drums for my hazmat program.

Not to get off subject but why is it the army designed their new ACU's with the light weight feature and matching in only 14 months. and here we are wearing winter weights in the desert (summer time) and they dont match what so ever?

Then again maybe we can get ahold of the company that is producing the ABU's for kids that are for sale in the BX. those match a feel really light.

I've worn my blue service coat twice in the last eight years, I wear my short sleeve shirt when I attend a working group meeting every year for my job, with some of the ABU's that some of our supervisors wear are so faded it's worse than a faded set of BDU's

Yea atleast my 4yr old faded BDU's match top and bottom, unlike these kids in tech school with uniforms that are only 4months old that don't match abit.

I guess with blues monday the air force will beable to test the hell out of the new service coat. Hummm new coats or new fighters and tankers. what's a better buy. Is it fly fight and look stylish or fly fight and win?

Racer181 wrote:

I guess with blues monday the air force will beable to test the hell out of the new service coat. Hummm new coats or new fighters and tankers. what's a better buy. Is it fly fight and look stylish or fly fight and win?

So you've read about that blues monday rule too, eh? Who the hell is focusing on stupid crap like this? Why aren't we focusing on how to increase the gaps in manning that we have in specific career fields? Isn't this a topic that should be focused on at a LATER time? Priorities, I swear...

tokenblkguy1785 wrote:

Racer181 wrote:

I guess with blues monday the air force will beable to test the hell out of the new service coat. Hummm new coats or new fighters and tankers. what's a better buy. Is it fly fight and look stylish or fly fight and win?

So you've read about that blues monday rule too, eh? Who the hell is focusing on stupid crap like this? Why aren't we focusing on how to increase the gaps in manning that we have in specific career fields? Isn't this a topic that should be focused on at a LATER time? Priorities, I swear...

Our new CSAF gave the final o.k on this. I guess the thought of we are at war so we must dress like it dose not apply anymore. But really how many maintainers are affected by this silly decision? I know in the operational world you cant wear blues and crew a jet, expedite, pro sup, or work in a back shop. Same holds true for the training world if you even think that you are going to touch a tool, aircraft, etc... not wearing your blues is perfectly o.k.

I guess it sucks for all those noners in finance, mpf (whats left of it) and all the rest.

what i want to know is when the CSAF is going to sign off on the black boots with the new ABU's ?? I know of allot of people who are tired of going to supply/clothing sales to get new boots because the ones they have do not look "presentable"

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