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IDCrewDawg
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Posted: May 03, 2004 - 02:01 PM
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| Does anyone know of a source for explosive proof bulbs of the design used in the link? Explosive proof due to fuel vapors from structure leaks or the fuel manifold. Shatter resistent to contain FO for obvious reasons. |
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FlightTestJim
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Posted: May 03, 2004 - 03:15 PM
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| I can't tell about those specifc bulbs in the engine bay photo, but when I was working in QA, we checked to make sure any and all lights, and lamps used around the aircraft were approved by the MSHA (Mine Safety and Health Administration) for use near flammable liquids (i.e. jet fuel) and explosive vapors. It's been a while since I've read the reg myself, but I assume it's probably about the same. Maybe there are some Explosive Safety NCO's out there? |
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IDCrewDawg
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Posted: May 03, 2004 - 03:43 PM
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| What I am looking for is some explosive proof bulbs that meet the regs, that we can use on a mount that is inserted on the skate rail, needs to be shatter resistant, because we have clumbsy workers. |
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chickenlegs
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Posted: May 03, 2004 - 04:15 PM
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Can't tell you specifically but have QA get with the Tech Rep. They normally have good points of contact with other Reps throughout the States and what other F-16 units are doing. Additionally, QA should have access to the FIN data base and perform a search of the subject matter. Let me know if you find out anything. Little things like this are always helpful...........I understand the need for shatter proof Our phase dock and unsched are now using cordless headsets for lefra op's ck's and the like. They like them a lot and gets rid of the tangled mess.
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FlightTestJim
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Posted: May 03, 2004 - 06:11 PM
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| IDCrewDawg, again I don't have access to the actual reg anymore, since retiring into the "real" world. It was covered in the AFR 127-100 series for explosives safety, but it used to state that the bulb had to meet MSHA standards, and it had to be protected with a transparent, shatterproof covering. If it helps any, the Wing Safety folks will definitely know this, or be able to find it easily, as these same lights are used in the WSA, especially the missile shop, and the Conventional Ammo section (where they inspect carts, 20mm, flares, etc.). When I ran the phase dock at Spang, we got these drop lights approved for use on the aircraft (we also got Makita cordless drills approved to pull panels before the "look" phase). |
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Posted: May 03, 2004 - 08:49 PM
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IDCrewDawg wrote:
Does anyone know of a source for explosive proof bulbs of the design used in the link? Explosive proof due to fuel vapors from structure leaks or the fuel manifold. Shatter resistent to contain FO for obvious reasons.
Its not the bulbs that matter, Its what they are in.
There are 2 explosion proof lights that you can use in a fuel systems area.
The LEU-2E Lantern and the N-2 light. All others must have UL approval for Class 1, Division 1, Group C.
You can usually find this info on the power cord for the light.
Hope this help |
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Viperwiper
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Posted: May 04, 2004 - 04:26 AM
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| I know our engine bay lights that go into the redrail the "flourescent" style but there kinda encased in a plastic sheeth. But even with clumsy workers how can one break them lights when there on the redrail? |
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IDCrewDawg
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Posted: May 04, 2004 - 07:27 AM
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Viperwiper wrote:
I know our engine bay lights that go into the redrail the "flourescent" style but there kinda encased in a plastic sheeth. But even with clumsy workers how can one break them lights when there on the redrail?
Drop it when inserting it into the rail. Believe me, containing the shattering parts is needed. |
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Posted: May 04, 2004 - 02:42 PM
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| Maglights fill the bill. Weapons tool boxes always have to have miner approved (explosion proof lights) and Maglights when left complete fill the bill well. |
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IDCrewDawg
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Posted: May 04, 2004 - 03:30 PM
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| Maglights do work well, so do the head mounted lights. Both however are focused where the worker is looking. We are trying to get something that will be one light, and 4 people can work from that much light. |
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FlightTestJim
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Posted: May 04, 2004 - 04:13 PM
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| IDCrewDawg, like I said earlier, the Wing Safety folks should have this info (the actual NSN and manufacturer). I had them approve the same lights that the Conventional Munitions folks used out in the WSA. I think they were MSHA approved 20W fluorescent tubes, inside a very sturdy plastic housing (about 2 feet long), also MSHA approved. We made them into portable drop lights with velcro straps to secure them to things on/near the aircraft. We could use them right in, or very near the work areas, including the engine bay, ammo drum bay, foward avionics, and aft accessory bays (even when the jet had fuel on board). Much better than Maglites or hand held flashlights. Jim |
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IDCrewDawg
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Posted: May 05, 2004 - 10:08 AM
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| Jim, thanks very much. I have gotten with our QA and our AFETS, they both are about as helpfull as elephants in a vase store. |
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FlightTestJim
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Posted: May 05, 2004 - 05:21 PM
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IDCrewDawg, I think I found where we bought our hazardous worklights way back when (memory starts to fade after a while). I recall getting the step-down transformer too, as an added safety precaution. Try this link:
http://www.danielwoodhead.com/catalog/p ... pl_hdl.htm |
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FlightTestJim
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Posted: May 05, 2004 - 05:39 PM
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chickenlegs
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Posted: May 06, 2004 - 04:24 AM
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Our tech rep stated that the folks with the New Mexico Air Guard have one they use on the rail. He said he'd send me the part # next week and then I'll pass it on...
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