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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 09:14 PM
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Hello all,
This is my first post after finding this great website. I am building a 1/48 scale F-16C but I want to make it unique to everything else I see.
My question is this: Is it realistic to have one AGM-88, one GBU-xx (or two on the same hard point), two A-120's and 2 Aim9's, and two drop tanks on the same plane? I have searched countless photos with no luck and don't see anything anywhere else that might show that this is realistic.
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Henrik
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 09:30 PM
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Hello,
Welcome to the forum!!
Regarding Your model it is not a "real" load-out to have different weapons on the same pylon. If You choose to load AGM-88 HARMs they are operationally carried on Sta. 3/7 with AIM-120 AMRAAMs primarily on Sta. 1/9 with an additional example on Sta. 2 or 8. Otherwise AIM-9 Sidewinders are carried Sta. 2/8.
With the GBU-series of bombs You have a bit more variation to choose from. You can load GBU-12s in a "slant two" configuration on Sta. 3 or 7 and a GBU-31 JDAM on the opposite station - 3 or 7.
I could go on and on - if You have a specific tail number You want to build let me know and I might be able to present You with some pictures for Your load-out.
Greetings,
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cstateramfan
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 09:51 PM
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Thanks Henrik!
I appreciate the info. I didnt mean the same pylon for an AGM-88 and GBU. Sorry if that was confusing. I meant one on sta. 3 and the other (possibly 2) gbu-12's on station 7 or vice versa.
I dont have the serial number with me since I am at work, well pretending to work anyway! When I get home tonight, I will try to remember to reply on the serial number. I did just finish a CO Air National Guard F-16C block 32 and couldnt find photos other than them carrying A-120's so I added JDAMS on sta. 3 and 7 on that and it looks pretty good!
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 10:07 PM
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Yes its a realistic loadout. Check out the Spang birds sporting the HTS on the other side with the Sniper pods. Post pics when your done!
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 10:10 PM
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| During Allied Force we did fly with a AGM 88 on 3 and a AGM 65 on 7......can't tell you why or I'd have to kill you. But yes we did! |
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 10:27 PM
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| that would be a cool looking load out. Did you ever fly with AGM88 & bombs or just a combo of bombs or a combo of AGM's? |
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Henrik
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 10:33 PM
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Purplehaze wrote:
During Allied Force we did fly with a AGM 88 on 3 and a AGM 65 on 7......can't tell you why or I'd have to kill you. But yes we did!
The AGM-65s were used as "poor man´s" target pods .
Kevin, The "CO" ANG use Block-30 F-16s with the "Big Inlet" and do not fly with HARMs.
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 10:34 PM
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| never mixed bombs and AGM's......but it could be done. |
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Posted: Oct 24, 2007 - 11:46 PM
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Hello Kevin,
Although not a Viper from the "CO" ANG this Montana example shows how You can equip Your model - "slant two" mounted GBU-12s and GBU-31 as well as AMRAAMs on the wingtips. The target pod is an AN/AAQ-28 Litening II.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2007 - 01:58 AM
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Henrik,
You are so wrong. Our squadron was the 23rd flying block 50's from Spang........If you think carrying the AGM-65's and AGM-88's and a HTS POD was a poor man's version you are very incorrect. This is why I dislike all you non mil types telling us what is going on. I have been with this site a long time and am starting to see a error in my judgment.
There are things we can say and can not. Accept what we say and take it as it is. But don't say what it is not.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2007 - 02:10 AM
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Purplehaze wrote:
Henrik,
You are so wrong.......
Purple
Hey Purple,
Sorry for the mix-up!! I can only tell what I was once told!!
I know that the AGM-65/HARM/HTS combo is not in any way a "poor man´s" version of something - it was actually "Code One" that once quoted a 389th FS pilot regarding the use of AGM-65s as "poor man´s"/alternative FLIR/laser spot tracker during OIF in 2003 as the Block-50/52s did mostly use the HTS system then ( the SC ANG used some TGPs - I know).
So - civil or not - when a Air Force related magazine quotes things like this what are You supposed to believe...........
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Posted: Oct 25, 2007 - 02:28 AM
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Henrik,
Okay, Ill go with that. Tactic's will dictate what can happen no matter what block you have. We did what we needed to tame Slobodan at the time. I spent the last 10 years of my career with sead/dead.....all block 50's. If you have a question I can answer, ask, if I can't, I'll tell you. Sometimes the best solution is the easiest....IE a MK 82 on target......
I'll PM you as I have some stickers you may want. I was in charge of the 23rd's deployment to Karup in 98 for Cooperative Jaguar in 98 and some good stories as well.
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Posted: Oct 25, 2007 - 03:02 AM
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Thanks buddy - PM inbound!!
Good times back in the 1990s. I saw Your unit up here a couple of times last time in 2001 at Aalborg with some Oregon ANG F-15s.
The Polish - huh, do not get me started .
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Posted: Oct 26, 2007 - 04:24 PM
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Purplehaze wrote:
never mixed bombs and AGM's......but it could be done.
Never say never Purple....
Official AF Picture of one of my buds during OIF.
"Henrik
Sorry for the mix-up!! I can only tell what I was once told!!"
You were told right, we used them in the Reserves for that very reason, until we got our first lightning pods. |
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Posted: Oct 26, 2007 - 05:45 PM
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| ACMI....I just meant our unit had never mixed them. There are some very strange mixes out there we need be. |
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