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Enthusiast Joined: Jan 10, 2007 Posts: 31 Status: Offline

Hi everybody!
what are the bombing modes used to drop "dumb" bombs?
I know that if i want to release such a bomb in Air-to-groung, i can use ccip or ccrp or dtoss. But are there any other ways to drop this bomb on ground targets?
Also what are the modes by which i can drop dumb bomb to hit air target?
best regards.
Kais

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Newbie Joined: Sep 26, 2005 Posts: 19 Status: Offline

Well, I'm not sure but think your question is already answered! Laughing

Greetings
M

Enthusiast Joined: Jan 10, 2007 Posts: 31 Status: Offline

so am i right when i said that they are only used for ground targets?

Elite 2K Joined: Oct 20, 2005 Posts: 2097 Status: Offline

Usually, you can´t kill an air target by dropping bombs... Wink

Here's one

14 Feb: Bennett-Bakke. This was the famous laser-guided-bomb kill. The helicopter was on the ground at the time that PACKARD 41 released the GBU-10, but took off while the bomb was in flight. The WSO kept lasing the helicopter anyway, and the bomb guided straight through the rotor disc, destroying the Hughes 500 instantly. The kill was witnessed by a Special Forces team on the ground.

Source: http://128.121.102.226/aakill.html#bennett-bakke

Salute!

On my last flight in the Viper I dropped all the eggs manual. Qualified, too.

So the missing mode is "TLBR", or That Looks 'Bout Right.

Those of us that dropped thousands of the 25 pound blue things and maybe a few thousand real bombs know what we're talking about.

Gums sends ...

Elite 1K Joined: Apr 26, 2004 Posts: 1198 Status: Offline

Gums, every time I read a post of yours I smile. Thank you.

Purple

Enthusiast Joined: Jan 10, 2007 Posts: 31 Status: Offline

so, ddip , ccrp and dtos are the only ways by which dubm bomb can be dropped wright? and the targets have to be ground targets wright?
and what is "TLBR", or That Looks 'Bout Right? and what is dropping bomb manualy?
thanks

"Numb as a stump", as we used to say up North in Maine....

Best Regards,

When manual bombing, the pilot must “think” like a bomb. When diving or driving at the target, the pilot must continually ask himself, “if I were the bomb and I came off the aircraft now, would I hit long or short?” He continues to ask this until the answer is “neither”, then he releases the weapon. Extremely effective.

Elite 1K Joined: Jan 31, 2004 Posts: 1532 Status: Offline

I always loved the Over The Shoulder toss. Overfly the target then start a loop. When you're just past the vertical, let the sucker go. Ballistics bein' what they are, it'll tangentially sail up a bit before Isaac Newton intervenes and brings it home while you pull back past the horizon, whip the pony, and gallop away valiantly. Was an option for the "B" series of weapons that didn't get used much. I can say no more.... Whistle

Salute!

Hey, Link-breath! No need to hide stuff, we used the over-the-shoulder for nuke-u-lar weapons. The Viper could do it, but you had to keep your finger off of the pickle button until going well past the tgt and then past the vertical. The algorithm was based on time-to-go, so you had to get th system to start over. If you pressed the button after time-to-go was reached the bomb came off right then. Hence, we had the LADD mode available, but it required the high drag blivet.

For KAIS, here's the deal about TLBR ..........

1) In a vacuum, the bomb will hit right below you. No drag, so it goes down at the same horizontal velocity as you.

So for low altitude deliveries, you simply fly your butt over the tgt, then use the TLBR method for release range.

Works every time, and some of us could drop 3 outta four bombs within 20 feet or so of the tgt with no steeeenkeeeng computer.

2) In the real atmosphere, the bomb slows down after release. It hits slightly behind you in the airmass. It's called "trail". Below 3,000 feet or so, the trail is negligible if you are 30 deg dive or so. At higher altitudes, the trail could be a few hundred feet. That meant you had to fly left or right of the tgt with your cosmic, seasoned butt, then pickle when TLBR.

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I can tell you from personal experience, that unless the wind was above 10 - 15 knots and you were dropping from the stratosphere, that the secret was to fly your butt over the tgt no matter where your nose was pointing. Then pickle when TLBR.

The B-52 Arclight guys had bomb trail of a thousand feet or more. So they couldn't use that technique. Hell, they couldn't see the tgt from up there, heh heh.

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By 1970 or so, we had the SLUF. It paved the way for the Viper DTOS. It was our primary visual delivery. The SLUF got CCIP later, but by then I was in the Viper.

Unlike the Viper, it used "range-to-go" versus "time-to-go". So the over the shoulder delivery was real easy.

In the Viper, I had more than one student-studly press the pickle button after he should have and the sucker came off and hit east Jesus long. In the SLUF, you had to have the pickle button down a fraction of a second before the computed release range.

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So ends Gums' basic A2G lesson for bombing something with dumb eggs with smart or dumb plane........

that is all

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