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majidjon13
PostPosted: Sep 21, 2007 - 09:22 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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hi

iranian 2 fighters aircarft named (saeghe) and (azarakhsh) mean firlight in [Link pending approval] had a fly on tehran.

iranian said this arcraft all designed in iran also with all with iranian

engineers! and there where no foreign help for us.

theres no information about ability of this aircarft like the missiles and [Link pending approval] and other questions about this aircarft.

i heard this aircraft use j85 engine

pics of saeghe
















iranian F5F


saeghe

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Look past the Blue Angels colour scheme and you will see subtle but significant differences between the two aircraft featured that suggest Iran's "Lightning" is more than simply a reverse-engineered Tiger with two tails

The first aircraft, presumably the earliest, looks pretty much like an F-5E and even the twin fins have a "tacked-on" appearance



But the second aircraft, while similar in planform, has a number of differences including enlarged and reshaped inlets


The first aircraft's inlets are F-5 sized and shaped. The second one (right) has rectangular inlets that appear larger, and the wing leading-edge root extensions are slightly different





A closer look shows the second aircraft's intake trunk is bulged compared with the F-5E's classic "coke-bottle" shape, although the auxiliary inlet is still there



The base of the fin also has a more faired-in appearance, so the second aircraft could be the production version The reason for the inlet redesign is not clear as the nozzles of both aircraft look similar, suggesting the engines have not changed

But maybe there is a bigger engine in the pipeline, making for a higher performing aircraft Which might explain why they would spoil the classic lines of the F-5 by doubling up on tails.

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I bet their using Russian or Chinese engines.
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Obviously someone is trying to curry favor with the USN out in the gulf. A USN aviator would have to be a real jerk to shoot those down. Laughing

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Maybe the want them to look like the Blue Angels F-18, sort of a wolf in sheeps clothing kind of thing. Humm Very Interesting!
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I'm sure it will be a very formidible aircraft.

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Looks like a target drone. Wink
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I saw this and put up a post over on my blog Smile .

A former U.S. Navy Hornet pilot and Top Gun instructor also put his opinion online on his own blog - check out Lex's post here Wink .

It may look like a re-worked F-5, but I bet it's fun to fly Cool ! Now, if only Iran weren't a State Sponsor of Terrorism on the U.S. list and if only there weren't sanctions, I could see an export market amongst U.S. civilians for this little hot rod Razz

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Oh, yeah: don't get me wrong. I would LOVE to own and fly something like this (as long as Bill Gates was picking up the tab). I'm just thinking the F-22 guys aren't getting nervous.
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Nah, I don't think the Raptor drivers are getting nervous at all. Of course, neither are the Hornet, Eagle, Viper, Phantom (Israel), or Skyhawk (take your pick of countries over there) drivers Wink .

Now, how do I get my hands on one of these and one of their Tomcats without going to jail...

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parrothead wrote:
Now, how do I get my hands on one of these and one of their Tomcats without going to jail...

Two!
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It`s not the aircraft themselves that are interesting, it`s the capability to actually do it in terms of an aerospace sector and developing one despite sanctions, that raises the eyebrows.

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Model railroaders have a term for modifying an existing design using something you bought and various parts out of your spares inventory. It's called "kit bashing" and that is exactly what looks like happened here.

I think your point would be valid Snypa if it turns out they designed the wing and came up with a new engine. Otherwise, as far as the hardware goes it looks like a kit bashed F-5.
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Most of them look like bog standard F-5 wings, except for the saeghe.

That wing looks like it has design influences of the F-14 and F-4 with leading edge flaps. I would go as far to say the wing on the saeghe is a new design.

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I heard it falls on its nose four times a day. Whistle
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