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Marshall
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Posted: Sep 12, 2007 - 08:43 AM
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| Maybe this will sound like a stupid question but heres what i've been wondering about for a while... All of the latest jets are extremely unstable by themselves and require multiple powerful computers to adjust the movements of the controls so the manoeuvring becomes presicely what the driver keeps in his mind... But what if its the avionics failure maybe if they were gunned out in a dogfight, will the pilot be able to perform the landing without the assistance of those computers or the next thing he should do after he gets a message of a failure is to eject? |
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Posted: May 27, 2012 - 5:18 AM
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sferrin
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Posted: Sep 12, 2007 - 01:57 PM
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| If all electronics in the aircraft go TU then yes, you are screwed. Even the F-16 is that way since the stick isn't directly connected to any control surface. |
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seat_dreamer
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Posted: Sep 12, 2007 - 07:15 PM
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Has this ever actually happened ? If not, I believe that after 30 years of unstable aircraft usage and with the computers and electronics getting more reliable, we'll never see such a case  |
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Roscoe
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Posted: Sep 12, 2007 - 07:33 PM
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| No. very redundant and very reliable. |
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johnwill
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Posted: Sep 13, 2007 - 05:23 PM
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| Take a look at <a href="index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=108532#108532">Gums' post of Sept 13</a> in F-16 Design and Construction, "Fly-by-Wire" for more information on flight control system reliability. |
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Vtugimora
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Posted: Sep 13, 2007 - 05:46 PM
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der03301
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Posted: Sep 14, 2007 - 03:16 AM
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| The F-22's flight control system is extremely advanced, and something i'm not willing to go into detail about. But, rest assured that it is an extremely reliable system and is unlikely to be taken out by nothing more than a direct missile hit. Check out the F-16 topic posted above for more detail on an older fly by-wire-system. |
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majidjon13
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Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 05:53 AM
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hi there
do any one have a list of this aircrafts crashed or cracked down.??
((with missile or engine problems))
f22.f35..b2..f117..Sr-71 |
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Vtugimora
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Posted: Sep 22, 2007 - 02:49 PM
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Joined: Sep 12, 2007 - 02:36 AM
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| I don't understand your question. |
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checksixx
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Posted: Sep 23, 2007 - 04:11 AM
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| majidjon13 there has been one crash in the F-22A program and it had to do with the avionics...problem found, problem solved. |
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majidjon13
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Posted: Sep 23, 2007 - 04:20 PM
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checksixx wrote:
majidjon13 there has been one crash in the F-22A program and it had to do with the avionics...problem found, problem solved.
tanks
and other aircrofts that i asked hadnt have any crash or explode with a missile.??
i heard serbian fired one f22 in war
and one b2 crashed in russia.
i'm not sure |
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Raptor_One
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Posted: Sep 23, 2007 - 04:43 PM
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| Where are you getting your information from? LOL! |
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majidjon13
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Posted: Sep 23, 2007 - 05:27 PM
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Raptor_One wrote:
Where are you getting your information from? LOL!
i heard it befor from some one.
i wanted to know the true list of b2 and other stealth aircrofts crashed.
tanks |
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snypa777
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Posted: Sep 23, 2007 - 05:56 PM
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majidjon, F-117 was shot down in Serbia not an F-22, which was not operational back then.
If you want a list of crashed stealth aircraft, check out Google which will be as credible as your friend..... |
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Neno
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Posted: Sep 23, 2007 - 10:34 PM
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majidjon13 wrote:
i heard serbian fired one f22 in war
and one b2 crashed in russia.
i'm not sure
Maybe you're also interested about su47 crashed yesterday behind my house?..
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