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Enthusiast Joined: Jun 26, 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline

Just an FYI link from airforce times

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/ ... n_070724w/

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Interesting... that same guy wanted to help China build an aircraft carrier.

http://www.gertzfile.com/gertzfile/ring060107.html

Most likely it is his part of the input to the following request.

http://fpc.state.gov/fpc/87745.htm

"Optimist by nature" Some would say that's just plain FOOLISH to beleive the Chinese have benign intentions. I wonder if the Army & Navy head honchos in Hawaii in 1941 were optimists, too. If Japan can afford them, I say sell 'em as many as they want.

Enthusiast Joined: Jul 06, 2007 Posts: 24 Status: Offline

Leaving aside the technology transfer issues, which I'm sure could be worked out through the LOEXCOM given the political will, I can't think of a country whose requirements are more suited to the Raptor's capabilities than Japan.

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Interesting... that same guy wanted to help China build an aircraft carrier.

http://www.gertzfile.com/gertzfile/ring060107.html

Am I missing something? What possible benefit would helping China build an aircraft carrier be to the US? Why not sell them some B-1's from the Boneyard to replace their Badgers, too? Pardon my Australian, but bloody ridiculous.

Enthusiast Joined: Jul 16, 2007 Posts: 38 Status: Offline

Another article for those of you who think the Raptor will be sold abroad...
http://asia.news.yahoo.com/070725/kyodo/d8qjmf281.html

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Thanks for the link Bdn.

Elite 1K Joined: Jul 22, 2005 Posts: 1089 Status: Offline

Sad thing is I'd wager the reason for the democrat-controlled congress enforcing the ban is more about making sure the F-22 is dead, dead, DEAD once the 183 have been bought. If they get their way they'd probably want to destroy all the tooling too so "it couldn't fall into the wrong hands".

F-16.net Editor Joined: Sep 23, 2003 Posts: 2862

More about keeping China happy $$$$$$$$

Its just Politics......................Admiral Keating is not directing his comments toward Japan but China! Further, Congress didn't say Japan could not ever have the F-22. Just not during FY 08..........in Politics you have to learn to "read" between the lines! Trust me when we get closer to the closing of F-22 Production Lines. Things will get interesting.............Personally, I still believe Japan will get the Raptor. Salute

Elite 1K Joined: Jul 20, 2005 Posts: 1035 Status: Offline

Its not up to the PACOM CC anyways, so whats the big deal. He shared his opinion.

Enthusiast Joined: Jan 05, 2007 Posts: 41 Status: Offline

Hey,I just read on Yahoo News that Israel has asked for the Raptor.Is this true and if so what are their chances of getting some?[Without stealing them Big No No

]Would it mean that if Israel gets the Raptor then the shop is open to everybody[i.e. trusted allies]?

Enthusiast Joined: Jul 16, 2007 Posts: 38 Status: Offline

I read that article. They asked for the Raptor a few months ago when we thought it was going to be exported, so it's not really new news. I assume you read the article about the Saudi arms deal of $20 billion. They mentioned the F-22 because it said the U.S. would assure Israel it would maintain a qualitative edge over Arab countries. Since the F-22 has been banned from export again, I think that Israel will end up getting the F-35.

checksixx wrote:

Its not up to the PACOM CC anyways, so whats the big deal. He shared his opinion.

The theater commanders have quite a bit of say in this actually...as an export policy advisor I was required to vet any new policy to the theater staffs. If one said no, I'd better have a damn good reason to recommend otherwise in my SSS.

Elite 1K Joined: Jul 20, 2005 Posts: 1035 Status: Offline

Not on technology export they don't.

Enthusiast Joined: Jul 16, 2007 Posts: 38 Status: Offline

This story suggests to me that this issue of exporting the F-22 is pretty much over now.

http://defensenews.com/story.php?F=2923717&C=airwar

If Japan isn't going to get it and won't buy it, I doubt anyone will.

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