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AIB release accident report on F-16 crash



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ViperKeeper
PostPosted: Jan 31, 2008 - 08:53 PM Reply with quote Back to top
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Read the article. Then think to yourself "Why is the AF going all to hell?"

Whoever did the tire change on that jet should convene a panel of doctors to explain how a group of morons obtained the ability to judge tire pressure on a tire that was never pressure checked and determine it was insufficient.

I have seen it all now. Rolling Eyes

Anyways... I bet that guy wishes he went to school and was a Lt. that was responsible for the gym(aerospace fitness center)... because lord knows if he has a bad day people will die. Salute

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What happen to the pilot walk around? Shrug
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Oh their eyes are only calibrated after they screw up and crash. Which..BTW might not have happend If he followed the book. The jet might just be on jacks right now getting repaired from that debris that caused his nose wheel to blow.

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Seems EOR should have caught it too, but who knows. ViperKeeper you know how this stuff goes, when you have massive screw up you always go to the least common denominator or lowest guy on the pole. Sad
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Yep..and that Sir is why I told the AF to stick it.

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We had the exact same situation happen at PSAB during OIF only it was a main and damage nowhere near severe. Its happened in the past, and will happen again.
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I read what was stated but I am not sure if I believe it or not.

Even a low tire should have been spotted, if was that low, the sponge look should have been apparent to all as it sad on the tarmac with the aircraft weight.

Even while taxing, he (pilot) should have felt (least I think so) a bit of a wobble (I don't know, maybe this one is a bit to easy to identify, I could be wrong) but it sounds a bit "off".

Its like the pilot at Depot years back, he did his walk around with the depot crew chief and both failed to notice the AoA probe 180 degrees out of whack, jet took off, crashed just after becoming airborne (hell of site, I saw it).

I dont know but as with the depot incident, fat too many folks were involved in this event too, if it was that simple it should have been caught, but as we saw with the depot - simple sh*t sometimes slips through the cracks too. Who knows?
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Star & Stripes wrote:

Balad F-16 crash blamed on maintainers and pilot
By Jennifer H. Svan, Stars and Stripes
Pacific edition, Saturday, February 2, 2008


MISAWA AIR BASE, Japan — Low tire pressure and pilot misinterpretation were to blame for the crash last summer of a Misawa-based F-16 at Balad Air Base in Iraq, an accident investigation board has concluded.

The Pacific Air Forces-convened board faulted Misawa maintainers for failing to check properly the jet’s front tire.

Investigators also determined the pilot’s misreading the tire failure for an engine malfunction was a contributing factor to the crash, according to the full investigation report.

“The cause of the crash was determined to be an underinflated nose-gear tire,” said Col. Terrence J. O’Shaughnessy, 35th Fighter Wing commander, in an interview this week. “Post the failure of that tire, the pilot interpreted the conditions in a very dynamic situation and applied the procedures for what he interpreted to be happening, which was an engine failure.”

The F-16 crashed July 15. The pilot ejected safely. The plane continued about 2,000 feet down the runway, tumbling end-over-end, before bursting into flames.

The loss of the aircraft, equipment and ordnance totaled just over $24 million, according to a PACAF summary of the report. No other property damage or injuries to military personnel or civilians occurred.

The aircraft and pilot were deployed from Misawa and assigned to the 13th Expeditionary Fighter Squadron at Balad. The investigation report said the pilot was the commander of the deployed squadron.

The squadron, along with the 13th Aircraft Maintenance Unit, deployed to Balad in May 2007.

O’Shaughnessy said the wing is conducting a thorough review of the board’s findings to determine “if and what punishment would be appropriate for each of the individuals who had a part in the accident.”

He said he has “full confidence” in Misawa’s maintainers and pilots and their ability “to safely operate in and around our community in Misawa.”

The accident board found that the F-16’s maintenance team failed to inspect properly the front tire after it was replaced on the morning of July 15. The maintainers did not recheck the tire pressure later that day during a shift change as required. Inadequate inspections by other maintenance personnel and the pilot also contributed to the tire’s condition going unnoticed, according to a PACAF summary of the report released this week. Investigators attributed the oversight to “complacency and overconfidence” because the tire was new.

“Accurate and truthful tire pressure checks, coupled with more diligent nose tire inspections, would have prevented this mishap,” concluded accident board president Col. Brent A. Johnson of Elmendorf Air Force Base, Alaska.

“We will garner every lesson learned from this and continue to get better and better as a team,” 35th Maintenance Group commander Col. Cedric George said.

The tire blew on the runway 19 seconds into the F-16’s takeoff roll at 144 mph. The pilot told investigators he heard a loud pop and bang and felt a sudden deceleration, according to the report. Believing the engine to have malfunctioned, he decided to abort the takeoff.

The nose gear collapsed about 7.5 seconds later. The pilot recognized the blown nose gear and ejected just prior to losing directional control, according to the report.

Investigators said they believe the pilot could have maintained aircraft control and successfully taken off and recovered the aircraft if he had correctly analyzed the situation as a tire failure.

Johnson, however, called the pilot’s decision to abort “reasonable” given that engine failures and blown tires share many of the same auditory and physical sensations. And the pilot said the threat to Air Force personnel on the ground in Iraq also influenced his decision to abort with what he perceived as an engine problem, rather than risk having to eject outside the wire.

Source: http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?sect ... icle=52108

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Ok...a couple of questions.

By "accurate and truthful" the clear implication is that somebody charted checking the tire pressure, and the board determined that to be false? I hafta agree with Gerbas here....once the tire shredded, how does one determine what the tire pressure was before it failed?

Also, in regrads to the similar physical sensations of blown tires and engine failures....one has to assume that unless the pilot had experienced both, there would seem to be no way to accurately gauge what is what...you'd have to have suffered a catastrophic engine failure 19 seconds into your takeoff AND a blown tire at the same point to have any way to judge them against one another, right? Is there a way to simulate it?

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Is it possible to get a copy of the actual AIB report? Not just a reporters synopsis?

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MechFromHell wrote:
Is it possible to get a copy of the actual AIB report? Not just a reporters synopsis?


Read <A href="news_article2728.html">our article</a> and at the bottom there is a link to the released PDF report from the AIB.

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Don't forget they always pull in all the people who touched the jet and after draining all the body fluids possible, they start asking questions.
The people who installed the tire may have admitted to not following Tech Data. Or the CC could have said he failed to check the pressure.
The Stars and Strips will have the sanitized version, you will most likely never see the actually report.
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AHHH you can read it... And it makes no sense when it talks about the tire looking "low".

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ACMIguy wrote:
Don't forget they always pull in all the people who touched the jet and after draining all the body fluids possible, they start asking questions.
The people who installed the tire may have admitted to not following Tech Data. Or the CC could have said he failed to check the pressure.
The Stars and Strips will have the sanitized version, you will most likely never see the actually report.


I'm willing to bet there was never a write up in the forms after the wheel had been changed that stated a check had been done like it was supposed to be.
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Thanks asif! Didn't see it there. Evil or Very Mad

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