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PostPosted: Jul 22, 2007 - 12:15 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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It's actually a smart idea to use a relatively successful production aircraft's general configuration as a starting point for a similar design. Some Airbus A3XX airliners look a lot like some Boeing 7XX airliners that came before them. It's irrelevant whether Airbus copied the general design of one of Boeing's airliners. Not saying that Airbus did this, but there's no shame in such a practice. If your new and supposedly improved mousetrap isn't better than the one you based your improved design on... well... that's not good for the business to say the least. It's all about building a better mousetrap. It doesn't matter if you copied the original mousetrap design and then added some new feature that makes it catch more mice... if it's better it's better and if it's not it's not.
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Hmmm... What's the Russian word for toast?

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If this Russian 5th Gen` fighter ends up looking like a carbon copy of the F-22, isn`t it to be expected? The F-22 is the state of the art. Why would Russia re-invent the wheel when it`s been done once. It would be foolish and costly to do anything else.

Who knows, they may even find a way to do some things better?
I have heard this new jet called the "Mig-50 or F/A-50" or something like that, the pictures around the net are ancient.

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For my part, I guess I'm largely preaching to the choir here about the F-22's virtues, and if the real PAK-FA does end up looking a lot like it, then this is just practice for shoving my rhetoric down a lot of other people's throats elsewhere. Very Happy

snypa777 wrote:
If this Russian 5th Gen` fighter ends up looking like a carbon copy of the F-22, isn`t it to be expected?


Not according to what most people on the Internet have been saying over the past umpteen years. I'm not just talking about Flanker fanboys, either. And most of these people still claim to be unconvinced about the F-22.

snypa777 wrote:
The F-22 is the state of the art. Why would Russia re-invent the wheel when it`s been done once. It would be foolish and costly to do anything else.


There are also many people, even ones who like the F-22, who have said and keep saying that the F-23 would have been superior. Why wouldn't the Russians copy that design, then? I admit that I'm being a bit cheeky and facetious with this sort of rhetoric, but there's always some truth or point in such kidding around, nonetheless.

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Who knows, they may even find a way to do some things better?
I have heard this new jet called the "Mig-50 or F/A-50" or something like that, the pictures around the net are ancient.


The current PAK-FA configuration is the T-50 (mentioned earlier), and nobody outside of Sukhoi really knows anything about its design features, although for some reason, just about every depiction looks like either the F-22 or more often the YF-22.
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