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JSF to resume flights



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I bet it would make that little white truck fly.

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They were sure right about the stealth,i cant see the F35 at all... Cool
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Purplehaze wrote:
elp wrote:
The latest word is "by Thanksgiving".


Of which year?


Gobble Gobble

LM, Fix the Phucker and lets press on
Evil or Very Mad

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VarkVet wrote:
Purplehaze wrote:
elp wrote:
The latest word is "by Thanksgiving".


Of which year?


Gobble Gobble

LM, Fix the Phucker and lets press on
Evil or Very Mad


Are you waiting to throw a party or something? The jet is ready, but its getting alot of precautionery measures (a lot of them government mandated). It seems alot like first flight...they are giving it the same care as if it had never flown before.

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VarkVet wrote:
Purplehaze wrote:
elp wrote:
The latest word is "by Thanksgiving".


Of which year?


Gobble Gobble

LM, Fix the Phucker and lets press on
Evil or Very Mad



I believe that the driving issue is the resonance check of the LPT blades required after the recent failure of the test engine which is made by (in this case) Evil or Very Mad P&W. Comment is based on published news releases.
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asiatrails wrote:
VarkVet wrote:
Purplehaze wrote:
elp wrote:
The latest word is "by Thanksgiving".


Of which year?


Gobble Gobble

LM, Fix the Phucker and lets press on
Evil or Very Mad



I believe that the driving issue is the resonance check of the LPT blades required after the recent failure of the test engine which is made by (in this case) Evil or Very Mad P&W. Comment is based on published news releases.


Correct. A number of unexpected issues have come up after the flight 19 issue was resolved, including the engine failure. They have all been resolved now....the bird will fly soon.

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They're test engineers. They don't like surprises. A good test flight is a boring test flight.

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elp wrote:
They're test engineers. They don't like surprises. A good test flight is a boring test flight.



No, as bad Gallagher always said:

Plan the flight
Fly the plan
Plan to get hammered

Its debatable which one is crazier, Jerry the instructor, or his brother the comedian.
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Well OK, as long as Beasley doesn't smash some fruit and vegetables with a hammer at the press conference. Laughing

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Are you waiting to throw a party or something? The jet is ready, but its getting alot of precautionery measures (a lot of them government mandated). It seems alot like first flight...they are giving it the same care as if it had never flown before.[/quote]

My comment might have been a foul as flight safety is paramount.

I met an aviation engineer the other day that impressed me; he works for NASA (a “second” as I think engineers are smart, but narrow minded and limited to their forte’)

I’ve only met 2 perfectionists in my maintenance career and he is one of them … the other Past/Present worked for March, Leyton House, Benneton, and Honda Formula 1 teams.

Other than the F-1 engineer who is in the UK, the other is a Purdue Graduate.

My point is, if you have a reputable Purdue graduate amongst you … go with what they say and “lets get it done”

I personally don’t believe the PW is the problem … If the motor is holding things up, well then D-tune it and get the rest of the test cards finished, so we can get the new “backbone” of the AF up and running.

Yes, this project is big, people are paid big money to figure this sh*t out.

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VarkVet wrote:
My point is, if you have a reputable Purdue graduate amongst you … go with what they say...


I guess thats the problem...not enough Purdue graduates. Its really the only good school out there.

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and “lets get it done”...


Brilliant. Its wonder why LM hasn't been preaching that since day one.

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I personally don’t believe the PW is the problem


Unless you're personally at the AA:1 status meetings every day, what you believe doesn't mean sh*t.

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… If the motor is holding things up, well then D-tune it and get the rest of the test cards finished, so we can get the new “backbone” of the AF up and running.


This isn't a '69 camaro. There is no duct tape or quick fix for a new jet.

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Yes, this project is big, people are paid big money to figure this sh*t out.


The people on this project (and in the industry) are getting paid chump change compared to what they are asked to do on a daily basis. They get the job done, no matter what the sacrifice. If you need to lecture someone on work ethic, go to your local boy scouts club.

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Come on, if American defense contractors were paid anymore, we would have to literally *contract* out our national defense as we could NOT afford it ourselves!! We're bout to go broke now as it buying all this * chump change* hardware!! I realize by an large it is the best in the world!! But to say they aint gettin paid GOOD money for it is ridiculous IMHO!!
The people on this project (and in the industry) are getting paid chump change compared to what they are asked to do on a daily basis. They get the job done, no matter what the sacrifice. If you need to lecture someone on work ethic, go to your local boy scouts club.[/quote]
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The world can never have enough Purdue grads!
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So it will resume flights in this year ?
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Beazz wrote:
Come on, if American defense contractors were paid anymore, we would have to literally *contract* out our national defense as we could NOT afford it ourselves!! We're bout to go broke now as it buying all this * chump change* hardware!! I realize by an large it is the best in the world!! But to say they aint gettin paid GOOD money for it is ridiculous IMHO!!


LM practically designed the F-22 as a favor to a government. If it wasn't for the F-35 win, LM would be left to survive on F-16 exports and might even sell that to Boeing. The fact that the country is broke has NOTHING to do with aviation defense contractors, but it has EVERYTHING to do with government politics. You think LM saw any part of the increased defense spending for the war? Hell no. In fact, they tightened the leash. Meanwhile, LM has to figure out a way to design a state-of-art fighter jet, and still buy the best quality hardware to protect the nation. So what happens? The engineering workforce is reduced and the remaining engineers must do double the work for the same amount of money to keep the blissfully ignorant taxpayer from complaining to their local congressmen. But it's ok, F-35 flybys sooth the soul Smile .

Go boilermakers and yes watch the news this week.

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