Forum: F-22A Raptor

boff180 wrote:

APHASIMs rendition of the F-22A is excellent especially with the afterburner add-on (third party). Everything in the cockpit works including radar, simulated weapon firing and a working gun effect! Simply awesome...

Here is my rendition of an Edwards machine in a non-stealthy load-out deploying to RAF Coningsby to use the Wainfleet ranges (as B-2s regularly use.)

EVERYTHING in the cockpit works? Shocked

Is this FSX??? I WANT THAT PLANE SOOOOO BAD..... I haven't bought it yet because no one can tell me whether it will work fully within FSX. (it was designed in FS2004).

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Elite 1K Joined: Aug 19, 2004 - 09:19 AM Posts: 1092

You don't need to quote an entire post full of screenshots, first off. Smile

Second, do you want an F-22 combat simulator or do you want to fly something in MSFS that looks like an F-22, flies like whatever the person who created it decided he thinks an F-22 should fly like, and fires a cannon?

The thing is, there's nothing better out there; there seems to be no recent specific F-22A flight simulator (which is what I really want) I have FSX, but I don't have Falcon 4.0. I wish I did Crying or Very sad

Tinito_16 wrote:

The thing is, there's nothing better out there; there seems to be no recent specific F-22A flight simulator (which is what I really want) I have FSX, but I don't have Falcon 4.0. I wish I did Crying or Very sad

Falcon 4.0 even though its from the late 90s and is not distributed anymore is easy to get, Just a heads up, if you need to figure out how something works or how to find something Google it and you will find an answer. A hint for you Google Falcon 4.0 and Google redviper or open falcon. Figure out what a torrent is.

The two links I posted earlier will also provide you a wealth of information. I would recommend Redviper.

Good luck, and trust me its well worth the trouble of figuring out how to install it and spending a few months trying to figure ouot how not to die, I'm waiting for my ICP to align in my f16 cj so I can taxi and head out for a deep strike into North Korea, after hitting the tanker and heading north I will place 4 AGM 154a's on to a SAM site from 30 mile out, from there I will egress hit the tanker one more time and land, Hopefully. Oh and its night time and raining.

Elite 1K Joined: Aug 19, 2004 - 09:19 AM Posts: 1092

I guess I'll also mention that Falcon 4.0 is not an F-22 simulation either. You can fly any aircraft (including the F-22), but only certain variants of the F-16 are accurately modeled in terms of weapons, avionics, flight model, etc. The other aircraft in Falcon 4.0 are represented well enough for the AI to use them in a somewhat realistic fashion against you in your F-16, but not vice versa. Falcon 4.0 is a hardcore F-16 simulator... that's all it is despite all the extra work that's been put into it over the years by a variety of people/groups/companies/etc.

Again... I suggest you check out the TAW forums at SimHQ.com. That's your best bet for a detailed PC F-22 combat simulator at the moment. Yeah it's old, but it's truly your only option if you want to take a simulated F-22 into simulated combat. Everything else out there is either not a true combat simulation or a hack.

Raptor_One wrote:

I guess I'll also mention that Falcon 4.0 is not an F-22 simulation either. You can fly any aircraft (including the F-22), but only certain variants of the F-16 are accurately modeled in terms of weapons, avionics, flight model, etc. The other aircraft in Falcon 4.0 are represented well enough for the AI to use them in a somewhat realistic fashion against you in your F-16, but not vice versa. Falcon 4.0 is a hardcore F-16 simulator... that's all it is despite all the extra work that's been put into it over the years by a variety of people/groups/companies/etc.

Again... I suggest you check out the TAW forums at SimHQ.com. That's your best bet for a detailed PC F-22 combat simulator at the moment. Yeah it's old, but it's truly your only option if you want to take a simulated F-22 into simulated combat. Everything else out there is either not a true combat simulation or a hack.

Raptor, your definitely correct in saying that falcon is geared towards the f16, I thought I mentioned that in my first post. Anyways Tinito_16 try them both, I myself tried TAW before Allied force and then Redviper but preferred the accuracy of the f16 in Redviper, but to each his own. There both good options and hopefully LP will model the f22 in its new release.

yes it is a fs2004 add-on aircraft made by alphasim. so what?

the flight model was designed with the help of an ex-usaf test pilot.

its the best thing out there as did has gone bust aand novalogic seem to have vanished.

andy

Elite 1K Joined: Aug 19, 2004 - 09:19 AM Posts: 1092

boff180 wrote:

yes it is a fs2004 add-on aircraft made by alphasim. so what?

the flight model was designed with the help of an ex-usaf test pilot.

its the best thing out there as did has gone bust aand novalogic seem to have vanished.

andy

I'm not bashing you for using it... don't get me wrong. I think it's obvious that the thread starter is looking for an F-22 combat simulation and not an add-on for FS2K or whatever the latest and greatest version is. Your post and screenshots are a tad bit misleading... they make it seem like you're almost flying this thing in combat with the cannon fire, external weapons, etc.

As for the flight models of add-on aircraft for MSFS, I know a guy by the name of Julian Data who makes a living making MSFS flight models for military pilot training courses and such. He's one of the few that actually knows what he's doing. I'm a serious flight modeler myself, so I know statements like "made with the help of ex-USAF test pilot" mean squat as far as realism and accuracy. Some F-16 pilots helped me tweak a few variables for my Falcon 4 F-16 flight models, but nothing major. You make flight models realistic by doing research, research, more research, and then a bunch of calculations, extrapolations, approximations, and so on. It's a very long process and most people aren't equipped to conduct the necessary research, let alone aeronautical calculations and whatnot.

fada...you just made yourself look like a 4 year old. A simulator is realistic and has many many functions. A console is a game and has a few buttons with some miniature joysticks. Rolling Eyes

That said, console flight sims can be very fun... the upcoming ace combat 6 on the xbox360... they are shipping a HOTAS Cougar style joystick set with it that looks pretty awsome.

Andy

Elite 1K Joined: Aug 19, 2004 - 09:19 AM Posts: 1092

boff180 wrote:

That said, console flight sims can be very fun... the upcoming ace combat 6 on the xbox360... they are shipping a HOTAS Cougar style joystick set with it that looks pretty awsome.

Andy

Video games can be very fun. Agreed. And don't mistake console video games that involve flying things that vaguely represent real combat aircraft for flight simulators. They're not.

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