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PostPosted: Jan 13, 2010 - 06:26 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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Chavez says Venezuela jets intercepted U.S. plane

CARACAS (Reuters) - President Hugo Chavez said he ordered two F-16 jets to intercept a U.S. military plane that twice entered Venezuelan skies on Friday, but Washington said none of its planes flew over the South American country's airspace.

Brandishing a photo of the plane, which he described as a P-3, Chavez said the overflight was the latest violation of Venezuelan airspace by the U.S. military from its bases on the Netherlands' Caribbean islands and from neighboring Colombia.

"They are provoking us ... these are warplanes," he said.

Chavez said the F-16s escorted the U.S. plane away after two incursions lasting 15 and 19 minutes each.

A spokesman for the U.S. Defense Department denied Chavez's assertion, saying in an e-mail: "We can confirm no U.S. military aircraft entered Venezuelan airspace today. As a matter of policy we do not fly over a nation's airspace without prior consent or coordination."

Senior Obama administration officials said the U.S. Southern Command was unaware of any incident involving U.S. government aircraft in Venezuelan airspace on Friday.

The perceived threat of U.S. intervention has become a central element of Chavez's political discourse and a rallying cry for his supporters.

Foes say Latin America's loudest U.S. critic is hyping the idea of a foreign threat to distract Venezuelans from domestic problems such as economic recession, rampant crime and inadequate public services.

The socialist leader surprised the diplomatic world in December when he accused the Netherlands of abetting potential offensive action against his government by granting U.S. troops access to its islands close to Venezuela.

The Dutch government says the U.S. presence on Curacao and Aruba -- where about 250 Air Force crew and ground staff are based -- is only for counternarcotics and surveillance operations over Caribbean smuggling routes.

(Reporting by Frank Jack Daniel; Additional reporting by Doug Palmer; Editing by Peter Cooney)

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6 ... nnel=11624
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really, they stay some miles off in CAP where the P-3 enters in Maiquetia FIR
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Either Chavez is paranoid or a Dutch P-3 got a little too close.
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The Dutch don't have any P3's left. They were fased out in 2006.
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I'm surprised that the VAF has enough spare parts to keep their F-16's fying.

They must have two flying and 22 cann birds....but then again... there are individual pilots with more F-16 flight hours than their entire fleet.

Very low hours on the airframes, but how long can they keep all the avionics talking....

From a maintenance standpoint, not flying was much worse that flying them all the time.

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Smitty,
Some 7-9 Vipers identifiable in this link to Airliners.net - taken last November;
http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.s ... se+wait...

So FAV definatelly have more than 2 flying

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at least 4 vipers were deployed since dec-20th in Balanda AB (SVBM) aprox. 200miles from BAEL AB (SVBL) where they are based.

this deployment is due of the rumors that a UAV from Colombia overflew a armyHQ in Maracaibo city.

almost every day, the vipers take-off to make CAPs in venezuelan airspace

here some pics of one of these sorties:





F-16s armed with live AIM-9L and Phyton4.

interesting is the liteningII pod in the F-16A, night identification tool maybe?

interesting too is the fact that one of those CAPs force-land two king-air planes with no filghtplan and loaded whit narcotics
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If 1715 is still flying that is a great testimony to the F-16! It was one of the original aircraft from Nov 1983!
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TJSmitty wrote:
I'm surprised that the VAF has enough spare parts to keep their F-16's fying.

They must have two flying and 22 cann birds....but then again... there are individual pilots with more F-16 flight hours than their entire fleet.

Very low hours on the airframes, but how long can they keep all the avionics talking....

From a maintenance standpoint, not flying was much worse that flying them all the time.

Smitty


Any chance that they may have replaced the avionics with those from another, more friendly nation, and one from which they may more readily get spares, like perhaps Russia? Also, in response to one of the above pictures, have FAV F-16s been put through some nature of MLU program, I didn't think "A" models were compatable w/ targeting pods from the get-go
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Guys,
Scrap the "bought F-16 parts from Russia". Venezuela is not isolated in the world, and if you look at the missiles the FAV Vipers carry, they are Israeli. So the upgrade to carry Litening and Python 4's are Israeli origin.
They are for sure not MLU'ed, but might have received other upgrades on a lesser level that allow the carriage of Litening amongst others.
If you read up on FAV Vipers here; http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article25.html - you will see that there are more sources for upgrades than just LM.


PS! Of 24 Vipers bought, 3 is said to have crashed - up to 9 are visible in my earlier link. That gives you 12 airframes to canabilize in order to keep the remaining 9-10 flying. That will get you quite a few years of flying;-)

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PoAF Block 15 OCU's carried tests with such pods with little modification.
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Given Chavez's anti-semetic views, I doubt you'll be seeing him get much help from the Israelis anymore.
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bjr1028 wrote:
Given Chavez's anti-semetic views, I doubt you'll be seeing him get much help from the Israelis anymore.


Not to mention Chavez is best buds with Armoured Dinner Jacket or what ever that Iranian whackjob of a presidents name is. I've read about possible links between Chavez's guys and Iranians cooperating on nuclear funny business too...
No Chance Israel would help Chavez.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8378316.stm
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bjr1028 wrote:
Not to mention Chavez is best buds with Armoured Dinner Jacket or what ever that Iranian whackjob of a presidents name is.


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