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peter
PostPosted: Aug 16, 2003 - 04:09 PM Reply with quote Back to top
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This is my first participation in this forum. I must say I think that this site is one of the best sites related with the F-16.

On your site you say that the Aim-120 can be installed in 8 different points of a f-16 but you don“t specify if they can be used at the same time in a mission. I checked many sites (USAF museum, USAF, Federation of American Scientists) and I realised that according with these sites an F-16 airframe can only carry 6 air-to-air missiles. What is the real number of air-to-air missiles an F-16 can use at the same time in a mission - 6 or 8?

If an F-16 can carry up to 8 air-to-air missiles can it do this only with aim-120 amraam missiles or, for example, can it be loaded with a mix of 4 sidewinders and 4 aim-120?

Could you please provide some information about this? I also would like to know your opinion about the eurofighter typhoon? Do you think the F-16 is more than a match to the eurofighter? They seem quite similar to me in many aspects.
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Anyway, the maximum number will be 6 ( the inner two hardpoints can be used to mk's bombs, LGB's, AGM-65F maverick, ECM pods and external fuel tanks). The one that is under the intake can carry a fuel tank or a MK bomb (the F-16 has 9 hardpoints).

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Oh and you can enter to that <a href="http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/F_16_Fighting_Falcon.html">website</a> and there go down to "General Characteristics", you will get some more information about your question.
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Peter,

The number of missiles the F-16 can carry is 8 at the same time. On the number 3 and 7 station a dual ejector rack can be carried which can accommodate 2 missiles on one station. It can be a mix of either the AIM-9 or AIM-120 on all stations.

Off course an F-16 with such a configuration will never be seen, but it is possible. Even in pure air-to-air role an F-16 will most of the time be equipped with AIM-120 on the wingtips and AIM-9 on the number 2 and 8 station together with either a centerline fuel tank or two underwing fuel tanks.

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Welcome to the site Very Happy , and to answer your question, 8 is the maximum possible load, but as Bjorn said, you probably will never see an F-16 armed like that. And yes, it that highly unlikely case that the F-16 is sporting 8 AA missiles, there will either be 8 AMRAAMs or a mixture of Sidewinders & AMRAAMS, with there being a minimum of 4 AMRAAMs on the bird. For further info, you can check out this sites, Armament section located near the top left of your screen.

As for whether the F-16 is a match for the EFA 2000, well, that's a little bit of a tough question. Obviously it matters which block we're dealing with, and I really can't give you a straight answer yet. Give me some time to do some research, okay. A similar topic was also raised, F-16 vs. Rafale. The Rafale is a lot like the EFA 2000, at least I'm pretty sure it is, so I'd say to find at least a few answers, you could go to that debate and see what people think. Smile
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It depends on the Block Configuration, Block 60 can carry the most weapons,
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Agree with Commando. What configuration are we talking about? Are you interested in air to air only or air to ground? The standard is 4 air to air missiles, but in some cases a F-16 may fly 6 air to air missiles. During a deployment I went on in support of Operation Souther Watch, we were tasked with the air coverage role, we flew 4 AIM-120 and 2 AIM-9. AIM-120 at station 1, 2, 8, 9 and AIM-9 at station 3, 7. I'll see if I have any photos laying around.

The photo above shows the jet with 2 AIM-120, 2AIM-9 air to air missiles, and 2 AGM-88 HARM missiles. Infact the F-16 block 50 can carry 4 HARMS, although not normaly done, it is flight certified to do so.

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Is it true that USAF F-16s can carry more Air-to-Air Missiles in Block 30 then the Turkish F-16 Block 30 ?.
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The Turkish Block 30 can carry up to 6 air to air missiles. AIM-9 or AIM-120. Same as USAF block 30.
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Hey Commando, what's up? Smile Well, there's been a lot of talk as about the Block 60 F-16s & their abilities. Tell me, just how many more missiles could it carry than the maximum the theoritical load of 8 AA missiles?
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Look at that. This is from the USAF game (Admin 8.3)

F-16c Block 30



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Great screen shot....which game is this from? Too bad you really can't put the AIM-120 on station 4 and 6.
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This is from Jane's USAF
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Thanks..guess I should of noticed the title at the top of the screen shot! Embarassed
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