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On the Vark I was a wiz with the wire … You was always saffing something with wire.

sh*t … It took me three times to get the nose tire gland nut right the other day!!!!

I must be getting old

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I did two yrs. on the Vark at Pease, Can't say I don't miss working'em, But I do miss seeing'em flying around.
i always had a hard time with the pneumatic servicing valves. Bang Head

Other than that I did'nt have any problems

For some reason I've alwasy been pretty good with the wire. Even during my separation from the AF while I worked at an airline I was always asked to safety 12 prop hub bolts during a prop change. There was about 3" of clearance to get your hand in, but I always made it look nice (and work). With the 16 I'm never completely satisfied with my hub cap safeties since there's only a twist or two...they usually don't look so good.

Yeah, the hubcaps never did look good, always had more pigtail than anything. always looked silly, but easy to do.

Enthusiast Joined: Oct 12, 2004 Posts: 22 Status: Offline

one time i did this backwards tripple reverse saftey wire to a saftey wire, impressed alot of people but they still made me do it over. but it was a good one.

Engine mechanics are the best at doing safety wire. I'd put money on that... Cool

FYI for those who need a definition
http://www.whizwheels.com/Tips/safetywiring.html

There must be 20lbs of wire on an old J57, J75, or TF-30. There is still some on the NEWer engines, but not nearly as intricate as the older motors.

We always had fun messing with the CCs on how long it would take them to do a wheel or a single hydro-line. Poke

Ever do zero defect - timed drills on the safety wire training board... FOR FUN? We had a board, and after the FNGs took all morning to complete their task, we would bet lunches on who could do the entire board the fastest. One technical or safety violation you went to the bottom of the list. It served to show our "kids" it wasn't impossible to do, and that with lots of practice it would become an acquired talent to them.

With the new self-locking nuts, B-nuts, crimp-washers, and safety cable tools; safety wire seems to be a dying art with the "kids." Rolling Eyes

Wish I had a board to torment them with today.

I love to hear "this is impossible to safety" or "you can't get in there" It's like a itch that has to be scratched, I can't resist!

Then they say "how'd you do that!?" LMAO

PS - Who wants to buy lunch today? Whistle

Well, speaking as one who still uses on occasion a home made "T" handle that is older than (cough cough) Centaurus radials and who learned to do the evil art by hand, I have a lot of fun with the safety cable systems Devil

1. For Q.A. ask them when the pull tester was last calibrated? Confused

2. A tension check always messes with their mind - especially if you use a fish scale, a piece of paper and a ruler Doh

3. Take away their block of ferrules and watch their faces. Shrug

followed by Bang Head

4. With a straight face after someone has just completed a major flange just ask "you did do a ferrule (pull off) check before you used it?

Walk away slowly and enjoy a cold Guiness

repeat when thirsty.

Here's the link to the Bergen page showing the tools that should be used to check the system. http://www.bergencable.com/products/saf ... tools.html

asiatrails wrote:

3. Take away their block of ferrules and watch their faces. Shrug

followed by Bang Head

4. With a straight face after someone has just completed a major flange just ask "you did do a ferrule (pull off) check before you used it?

No kidding, our "kits" have the tension checker right in them. The problem we've had is using the proper ferrules for the respective cables!?

We use the DMC kits. http://www.dmctools.com/Catalog/tools_a ... _equip.htm

Not only did the pull off check NOT get accomplished, but the ferrules for a larger diameter cable were used with smaller cable. One push with your index finger, and the ferrules would pop off and the cable would fall out! Bang Head

Should we point out the "cable" system costs about 100X more than "wire" to use?

"Hand me the roll of 32..." Cool

How many have one of these in their tool boxes?

Newbie Joined: Mar 12, 2007 Posts: 13

That_Engine_Guy wrote:

asiatrails wrote:

3. Take away their block of ferrules and watch their faces. Shrug

followed by Bang Head

4. With a straight face after someone has just completed a major flange just ask "you did do a ferrule (pull off) check before you used it?

No kidding, our "kits" have the tension checker right in them. The problem we've had is using the proper ferrules for the respective cables!?

We use the DMC kits. http://www.dmctools.com/Catalog/tools_a ... _equip.htm

Not only did the pull off check NOT get accomplished, but the ferrules for a larger diameter cable were used with smaller cable. One push with your index finger, and the ferrules would pop off and the cable would fall out! Bang Head

Should we point out the "cable" system costs about 100X more than "wire" to use?

"Hand me the roll of 32..." Cool

How many have one of these in their tool boxes?

Actually at our phase dock we have 2 of each of those in our box.

Not too long ago we got some of those safety cable guns in our support, and to this day they have sat there collecting dust. For us it is easier to use the regular old good stuff. I dont know how many times ill open up 3303 and find cable and swedges from the hyropump bnuts and plugs sitting in the bay. Makes you wonder why they even let you use it on the motor.

You haven't safetied sh*t until you have done the wing nut on an F-4 battery.

Man we had one of those tools in our borescope box for our combustor bolts. That tool just sat there and rusted into the shadow board. I think i will stick to the pliers. Very Happy

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You haven't safetied sh*t until you have done the wing nut on an F-4 battery

I had completely forgotten about the battery nut. Thanx for making shiver with nervous tension again. Wink

eclipsejpw wrote:

I dont know how many times ill open up 3303 and find cable and swedges from the hyropump bnuts and plugs sitting in the bay. Makes you wonder why they even let you use it on the motor.

Well someone isn't checking the tension on their gun if they're falling off that easy. Either that or they're using the wrong gun for the cable size or the wrong ferrules for the cables... Then again, I know guys who can't use cotter pins per T.O. 2-1-111 ... Bang Head

When done properly the cable is pretty strong and secure stuff.

Mushmouth wrote:

Man we had one of those tools in our borescope box for our combustor bolts. That tool just sat there and rusted into the shadow board. I think i will stick to the pliers. Very Happy

I'd much rather use a the pliers too, but whey you have to safety some of the JFS fuel control lines in an F-16, that long reach tool can get in there just right.

Anyone remember wiring the insulation blankets onto turbojet tailpipes? That was fun... Just remember to make one whole turn around each capstan...

Yes I did say turbojet... Whistle

Keep 'em flyin' Thumb

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Anyone remember wiring the insulation blankets onto turbojet tailpipes?

UH, no.

(dripping with sarcasm)

Elite 2K Joined: May 13, 2004 Posts: 2945 Location: Utah

OK...how many of you have ever safety wired a real "turnbuckle", any body remember those things, that was an ugly thing to safety wire...I only did one once and it took me three times to get it right looking neat, that was painful for me. Doh

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