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Henrik
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Thank You all for confirming my own thoughts with additional interesting information!!

Greetings,

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Glad to hear they dumped the LAU-88. Very heavy, very draggy.
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Good day, am just wondering, can the Block 50/52 Wild Weasels carry AGM-65s operationally for DEAD or SEAD role? If so, with the dumping of the triple shot launcher, this leaves the single shot rail launcher, is there such a thing as twin rail launchers for the Mavericks.

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Yes it can and we have. During Allied Force we carried a AGM-88 on one side and a single AGM-65 on the other but only on one special jet.

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Hey good buddy. It was for show, makes people go ouh and augh.
We still do stuff like that just for fun at these events.
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But in operations a Weasel Viper carry either two HARMs or two Mavericks?

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Good call viperdude, and mav's are not primes anymore, but generally 1 mav on sta3 and 1 on sta7 via LAU-117. We almost got a scare last year in Iraq about how many Lau-117's we brought along with us, which was none!!! LOL!!! Higher HQ wanted to play the scenario game with Iran, yeah right.
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Does anyone have a picture of a 16 carrying 3 Mavs?
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Cali wrote:
Does anyone have a picture of a 16 carrying 3 Mavs?


Look at this on f-16.net
http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item33983.html

The picture has one Mav loaded on a LAU-88. The caption called it a TER but it's really a LAU-88
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Does anyone know wether the 50FW flew with the LAU-88 while they flew the F-16C/D's? I am planning to model one of these, and have thought about this kind of load-out?

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ACMIguy wrote:
Cali wrote:
Does anyone have a picture of a 16 carrying 3 Mavs?


Look at this on f-16.net
http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item33983.html

The picture has one Mav loaded on a LAU-88. The caption called it a TER but it's really a LAU-88


I have seen pictures like that, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a F-16 with 3ea mavs each wing for a total of 6 mavs.
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ACMIguy wrote:
Cali wrote:
Does anyone have a picture of a 16 carrying 3 Mavs?


Look at this on f-16.net
http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item33983.html

The picture has one Mav loaded on a LAU-88. The caption called it a TER but it's really a LAU-88



I have seen pictures like that, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a F-16 with 3ea mavs each wing for a total of 6 mavs.
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Cali wrote:
ACMIguy wrote:
Cali wrote:
Does anyone have a picture of a 16 carrying 3 Mavs?


Look at this on f-16.net
http://www.f-16.net/gallery_item33983.html

The picture has one Mav loaded on a LAU-88. The caption called it a TER but it's really a LAU-88



I have seen pictures like that, but that's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a F-16 with 3ea mavs each wing for a total of 6 mavs.


For the short time (very short), we had LAU-88's at my unit we never loaded 6 Mav's. We would load two on one side just for load training but not all 6 on both sides.
When flying we loaded one TGM on each side, pilots didn't care for the extra drag on the early blocks.
I think I saw one picture of a simulated load out in an old F-16 Book once. It was one of the early General Dynamics photo’s used for promoting the jet.
Maybe someone here has loaded 6 before, but at my base we didn't.
Sorry if that doesn't answer your question.
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Full Scale Development flight test at Edwards included 6 AGM-65. That was the most severe weapon load for station 3/7 in terms of structural load. I well remember breathing a sigh of relief when we finished the testing, as it came very close to the load limit of the hardpoint. The critical maneuver was a 5.2g 360 degree full command roll at .9 mach / 5,000 ft. This was before the Category lll switch was developed, so roll commands were the same as for air to air loadings.

The 6 AGM loading was so draggy, that the drag load used up about half of the strength of the hardpoint at .9/5k in level 1g flight. We probably made about 4 or 5 flights with that loading to clear all the test conditions.
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Is this physically possible? Is the C/J wired to handle this load out?

1 AGM-65 on stations 2 & 8
2 GBU-12's on 3
3 BSU-49's on 7
Drop tanks on 4 & 6
2 AIM-9's on 1 & 9

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