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Newbie Joined: Aug 15, 2003 Posts: 3 Status: Offline

Hello Viper fans

First post here, so, cheers !

As a Falcon SP3 player I'm wondering where the fuel dump switch is located in the real F-16...I don't find it in the sim, though the 2D cockpit is rather accurate. Confused

Anybody knows? Rolling Eyes

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There is NO fuel dump switch on the F-16.

Newbie Joined: Aug 15, 2003 Posts: 3 Status: Offline

Ok that's maybe why it's so hard to find it Embarassed

But it's a bit amazing, you cannot dump some fuel in case of emergency landing, in order to limitate fire risks?

Thanks for answering.

The F-16 only carries approx 7200 lbs of fuel. If its that critical they just dump external stores and they land with whatevers left onboard.

You're welcome btw. Wink

When you can burn 60,000 pounds/hour (or in AB 1,000 pounds/min) you normally don't need a fuel dump switch. Getting rid of excess gas is not normally a problem - if it is, then like Sparticus said, you jett your stores.

Sparticus wrote:

The F-16 only carries approx 7200 lbs of fuel. If its that critical they just dump external stores and they land with whatevers left onboard.

You're welcome btw. Wink

They only carry 7200 lbs of fuel internally, this can double with a full compliment of tanks

That black-striped yellow handle between your legs will dump *all* your fuel in a jiffy!!!!

(Crew Chief point-of-view: That black-striped yellow handle between your legs will jettison the stick actuator...)

Joined: Feb 01, 2007 Posts: 0 Status: Offline

Either that or tap Min-A/B then deploy your speed brakes and/or gear.........

Helps burn the tanks out a little quicker. You could always drop the tanks, but you're only going to dump a few gallons, cause it was gone on take-off!

bix wrote:

Either that or tap Min-A/B then deploy your speed brakes and/or gear.........

Helps burn the tanks out a little quicker. You could always drop the tanks, but you're only going to dump a few gallons, cause it was gone on take-off!

If you hit min AB and deploy your gear, you have a pretty good chance of getting your a$$ kicked by your crew chief for being a dumb a$$.

Newbie Joined: May 11, 2004 Posts: 2 Status: Offline

I agree with crew dawg, I'd be waiting for you with a JFS pump handle.

Hurricane wrote:

Ok that's maybe why it's so hard to find it Embarassed

But it's a bit amazing, you cannot dump some fuel in case of emergency landing, in order to limitate fire risks?

Thanks for answering.

If the pilot is smart enough to have called an IFE the fire department lives to keep those down to a minimum. During peace time the halon resivor is not used for the most part. As previously discussed in other threads. So if there is some emergency that requires removal of all available fuel, burning it off may not be the best plan. If fuel is an issue because of weight then again the fire department is there to put out the resulting brake fires. If you have a weight problem because of external stores and fuel is a concern, the the extra 9 or so thousand pounds that would be eleminated by jettisoning your full fuel tanks could be of use. As most aircraft hold at least 7000lbs clean and upto 13000 with 3 externals.

Hope this helps.

As a Viper pilot I don't quite follow the logic of the last two posts. Perhaps my systems knowledge needs some work. Why a JFS pump handle? And why would min-AB affect the gear? If you're implying that min-AB would assuredly overspeed the gear, that's not the case at all; I've parked it in MAX and wallowed for a minute or two at less that 100 knots many times. I've also had to use min-AB to stay on the boom if the tanker is higher and/or slower than normal, and I'm heavy.

A 3G 'S' maneuver using gear/boards and min-AB will burn down gas in a hurry without overspeeding or over-G-ing anything.

STBYGAIN thanks for explaining the min AB thing. Many folks don't understand the amount of drag the gear and boards produce.

JFS pump handles are by far the best tool in the CrewDawgs box for adjusting attitudes. Ask to see one next launch. You will quickly understand. Loaders have a pretty good pump handle in every Jammer.

So your telling me that if your at mil setting, airspeed around say 120 knots, and you go min AB there is no chance of overspeeding the gear. Or for that matter with high G manuvers and gear extended you might over G the wings attempting to burn fuel or make slow tight turns? As I am not a pilot this is very interesting, I was sure it that this could or has happened.

As far as a JFS pump handle. They are heavy solid steal in the shape of a large T. Ask any crew chief what the chances of them pummeling a SP or any other annoying person bothering them with one of these, while trying to install a hydralic pump at 3 in the morning. Helps take out frustrations and large divits in peoples skulls when highly agitated.

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So your telling me that if your at mil setting, airspeed around say 120 knots, and you go min AB there is no chance of overspeeding the gear.

Absolutely not. There's every chance in the world you could overspeed it. I've gone supersonic in mil. I doubt you'll over-G the wings though, you'd over-G the gear assembly first. There's also every chance of me morting myself on every flight, but I continue to fly. That's what makes pilots pilots, is that we are capable of making autonomous decisions without being bound to a strict T.O. or having QA look over our shoulder. We all have wings on our chest, and that's enough. But to answer your question, that's tantamount to driving off a bridge accidently. Sure, all cars are capable of doing it, but very few drivers would let it. Still, it happens here and there.

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