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F-22 Airshow maneuvers



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em745 wrote:
strykerxo wrote:

What would an F-22 demo team such a the Thunderbirds, be like?

Um... prohibitively expensive would be my guess. Razz



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em745, is that a screen grab from Jane's USAF?

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I think that's from Flight Simulator. I had one just like that but then I bought the AlphaSim F-22, it's still not updated for FSX but it works ok.

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Obamanite wrote:

Well, other than the fact that the airplane pictured is actually a YF-22

Actually, that model seems like a "mutt" more than anything. It has the YF's forward-set intakes and wing leading edge sweep, but the stabs and rear edge of the wings are more F like.

Also, the angles on the tails' front and rear edges are slightly off.

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em745, is that a screen grab from Jane's USAF?

It's from an "add-ons" site for M$ Flight Sim.
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Hello!

I've read that F/A-22 has thrust-to-weight ratio better than 1. Actually many other fighter jets produce enough power to achieve this ratio.

But does it means that the jet can accelerate when going straight upwards?
However in this video the Raptor actually stalls. Does it need more speed to acclerate when going upwards or what is going on? I'd guess that flying at higher speeds the situation is different because on this example the Raptor has barely taken off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D4F0G4aIuU

Thanks for your answers. Very Happy
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Here we go again.

Read:

http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-5096-start-0.html
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-3830-start-0.html
http://www.f-16.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1486

regarding "straight up" climb performance and the factors that affect it.
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and then there is always the obvious "maybe he wasnt at full thrust"

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Guysmiley wrote:

Thank you very much for your links! For somehow I didn't even thought about the search which probably reveals even more topics.
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sprstdlyscottsmn wrote:
and then there is always the obvious "maybe he wasnt at full thrust"


good point
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Dude, if you look at the F-22 when it supposedly "stalls" going straight up, do you notice something? Yes, that's right, no afterburners. If the F-16 could and can accelerate going straight up, the F-22 can do so in spades. That beast generates some 80,000 lbs. of thrust, and that's sea level static. A certain pilot in a certain board also talked about climbing pretty much straight up and breaking 60,000 feet going past Mach 2 while having to ease up on the burner lest he, well, literally burned the plane...
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More good stuff: Thumb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J715N2fGUU4

Nice variation at the end. Applause
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This one is too effing funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs6zfod- ... re=related
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Obamanite wrote:

WTF

LMAO
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Obamanite wrote:


Oh ya, that Chinese dude. That person doesn't even speak english. He probably uses google translator to speak judging by the amount of words that are out of context.
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And the Pirates of the Caribbean theme music is the icing on that non-sequitur cake. Wow. LMAO
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Obamanite wrote:
Dude, if you look at the F-22 when it supposedly "stalls" going straight up, do you notice something? Yes, that's right, no afterburners. If the F-16 could and can accelerate going straight up, the F-22 can do so in spades. That beast generates some 80,000 lbs. of thrust, and that's sea level static. A certain pilot in a certain board also talked about climbing pretty much straight up and breaking 60,000 feet going past Mach 2 while having to ease up on the burner lest he, well, literally burned the plane...
Erhm in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D4F0G4aIuU there are definitely afterburners on. At 0:36 shows that clearly.
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