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I never ran past 80%. Only qualified to 80%
and yes the throttle can be manipulated past the spider

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I have ran the F-16 for more than 15 years collectively. Was waivered to run as a SrA back in the day. I also ws a run instructor and certifier at 3 bases. I have had some pretty bad emergencies, one where the engine actually siezed and caught fire, another where the engine rolled back to shitdown and immediately went to the mil stop and all I could do was sh*t her down and hop. I have performed the old A cell/D cell ckeds on the old 100's in the 80's. Caught one on fire in the hush house at Homestead in 92. Have slid a few airplanes due to the wet TJ flightline.

As for me, it was always locked! I think there is much more of a possibility for me to accidentally hit the switch during the run adn the cockpit inadvertently come open, than for me to forget my EP's and not get out in time. As a matter of fact, I think the TO tells you don and locked.

Stu

It does say down and locked, just a stupid kid at the time and thought I knew better than the book. I'm of course much older and wiser now. But then again, I'm also a civilian, so I guess "no blood, no foul".

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F-16Lifer wrote:

I have ran the F-16 for more than 15 years collectively. Was waivered to run as a SrA back in the day. I also ws a run instructor and certifier at 3 bases. I have had some pretty bad emergencies, one where the engine actually siezed and caught fire, another where the engine rolled back to shitdown and immediately went to the mil stop and all I could do was sh*t her down and hop. I have performed the old A cell/D cell ckeds on the old 100's in the 80's. Caught one on fire in the hush house at Homestead in 92. Have slid a few airplanes due to the wet TJ flightline.

As for me, it was always locked! I think there is much more of a possibility for me to accidentally hit the switch during the run adn the cockpit inadvertently come open, than for me to forget my EP's and not get out in time. As a matter of fact, I think the TO tells you don and locked.

Stu

The spider is probably the weak link of these jets, it was an afterthought … lots of other jets out there with electric canopies and no spider.

What does the Spider do anywise? 1. Positive downlock on the switch (and still gets screwed up if you try do close the canopy and slam the spider down at the same time) 2. Inflates the canopy seal 3. Extinguishes the light, 4. locks the canopy (I still can’t figure out how, but it does)

It would be real bad for the canopy to open in-flight on an F-one-six because of the full-blown design and no windscreen. That is why the spider was incorporated.

The Fire Department trains how to unlock the spider with the “ROD” and Makita’s for trapped aircrew, But I never seen the “ROD” to push the spider open on the flightline.

I don’t lock myself in my bathroom at home when I take a sh*t and I will not lock myself in an F-16 for an idle run.

Tim wrote:

I never ran past 80%. Only qualified to 80%
and yes the throttle can be manipulated past the spider

Call me crazy Tim, but if you never ran past 80%, then you obviously never been at a trim pad or hush house and actually tried to do it. It's not possible. Besides, you have to rotate the T-grip out board and that look is in the way.

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Happy_Gilmore wrote:

I agree with mark, that kind of emergency is far and few between, I'd like to hear the story from anyone who has actually had to do it, I'll bet there aren't many out there.

We had the case where the pilot clipped the landing light tower on landing.

The Fire Department found the jet sans the right gear, canopy opened and engine running with no pilot in sight.

A quick search found the pilot in a fetal postion in the grass between the runways.

That's the only case I've heard of a person jumping from a running F-16.

Varkvet, you are so full of yourself. Quit trying to make your original comment valid. You've NEVER run at military power or burner with the canopy handle open.

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SUPERPHANTOM wrote:

Varkvet, you are so full of yourself. Quit trying to make your original comment valid. You've NEVER run at military power or burner with the canopy handle open.

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You've NEVER run at military power or burner with the canopy handle open.

SUPERPHANTOM, Reading is Fundemental

Never said I did burner with spider open ... the throttle can be manipulated around the spider to achieve burner but why? It would be hard to explain to supervision a MAX AUG flameout with the throttle stuck fwd of the spider Smile

You must be a Pointy Head

I have never been a run instructor, I just ran a crap load of jets! As a matter of fact I ran a blk25 bigmouth F110 the other day! Call me a liar but I know what I ran, it was weird but cool. There has to be probably one or even two of these jets, I've never seen one before I ran it.

ok, I'll fall for the joke here......Block 25's are all small mouth Pratts (-200's, -220's and -220E's). I know this because I've worked them now for over 14 years. I have never seen a BIG MOUTH block 25. The BIG MOUTH mod started in with the middle of the Block 30 Production line. This is why you have small mouth and big mouth Block 30's (which by the way are all GE powered). I have also never heard of, nor seen a Block 25 with a GE -110 engine installed. In fact, we've always been told that a GE motor can NOT physically be installed in the Block 25's.

With this all said now, pardon me while I go back to support and get the keys to my jet and check out a left handed Torque Wrench.......LOL

Fireball was that blk 25 jet 83-1120 thats the only jet I know of having a GE 110 in it.

And block25CC while your in support could you get 25 ft of flight line. Laughing

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Block25Crewchief wrote:

With this all said now, pardon me while I go back to support and get the keys to my jet and check out a left handed Torque Wrench.......LOL

Thanks for the Torque Wrench, I needed to tightened the Exceptional Release.

I broke my calibrated arm.... Bang Head

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Sorry Maddog but it's the spring tension we need to check on the release.............

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