I don't see where Dozer's responses violated OPSEC

but you have to admit none of this would have happened if certain people had not kept pressing for answers to speculated capabilities.

Do not take offense to this, but...

The F-22 was not built for yours or anyone else's amusement. It was not built to break any non-combat records. It was built to do a job, and do that job it shall. At no time should the USAF feel obligated to let anyone with out a need-to-know know anything specific about this plane. I am glad the capabilities of the Raptor are being kept under lock and key. It keeps the enemy guessing as to what it can do. Sorry if you want to see it out "cobra" a FLANKER. But it seems like you're pissy 'cause the USAF doesn't consider you important enough to let you in on classified information. Too bad, and get over it.

As for Dozer, sometimes you need to remember OPSEC. I can not stress this enough. On this board I see OPSEC thrown out the window all the time by so-called service men. Watch what you say, you never know who is watching.
OSI has people on the net searching forums like these everyday. The last thing anyone wants is to come under investigation for something they said on these forums.

I for one agree 110% with j.vicky. It is not your business to know those kinds of things unless you are flying or building the Raptor. I applaud the Air Force for doing what they did. So what, now we can't see the Raptor flying backwards anymore. I'm not losing any sleep over it. I know a certain Foriegn Disclosure Officer that I am sure will back this up.

I don't see anywhere where it said that the Raptor won't be in anymore airshows. He said he won't be flying in them anymore. Trust me, the AF will have to show off their baby in order to get those few more orders they need.

There where a couple times that I looked over some of Dozers posts and cringed. By and large he did a good job, but he did slip a few times (one time particular about time to climb in a Raptor). But you are most certainly correct, the pressing of questions needed to be addressed. People need to understand the sensitive nature of this program, and when they are told to cease with the questions, they should have to respect and decency to let it be. But maybe I am just a bit touchy on the OPSEC issue since I am the OPSEC monitor and training official in my section (you know the guy that once a year nags you to take the IA test)

In America, we have something called the First Ammendment. You ought to read it sometime. We've got a right to ask whatever questions we'd like, and it is the perogative of those in the military to not answer them. But, again, don't you dare tell me or anyone else that I may not ask whatever question I please.

@idesof

Pull your head out of your a$$. You are pissed because you have no need, and indeed, no RIGHT to know anything that the USAF deems unnecessary for you to know about the Raptor. And do not lecture me CIVILIAN about the real world or democracy. Me, and millions like me, gave up their freedoms when we entered service. You live a sheltered life made possible by me and the millions of other men and women in uniform. Let me get one thing straight with you, I do no SERVE you, my service is to the constitution, and my orders come only from my superior officers. Since there is no reason for you to know anything about the Raptor beyond the fact that it exists, you should have the decency to stop probing servicemen about it.