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 Posted: Feb 16, 2004 - 05:58 PM
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Sorry for what might seem to be simple [Link pending approval]
At, say 25,000 feet ASL in altitude, what flight time to Bingo would you expect at full AB? ([Link pending approval]) |
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Posted: Feb 16, 2004 - 06:25 PM
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| Too many variables to answer - internal fuel only? if not then drag points? field elevation? I'm sure someone can quote SFC for the engines (lbs/hr in AB) but there's a lot more involved in calculating 'flight time to bingo' |
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darkwraith
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Posted: Feb 16, 2004 - 06:29 PM
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| [Link pending approval] Figure no external tanks and typical air/air weapons [Link pending approval] I'm only looking for ballpark [Link pending approval] |
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Posted: Feb 18, 2004 - 12:23 AM
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The Full AB fuel flow varies from around [Link pending approval] Lbs/Hr at sea level to around [Link pending approval] Lbs/Hr high level. Depending on temperature and whether or not the segment 5 is lit. As from a certain alt, the 5th AB segment is inhibited to prevent engine stall but if you enter that region with the segment already cooking, it will not extinguish itself.
Hope it can answer your question.
Fuel carriage for a A-model wingtanks is +- 12100 Lbs usable. Substract 1300 Lbs for a B-model.
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Posted: Feb 18, 2004 - 02:15 PM
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| I can do the math from [Link pending approval] THANKS for the info! |
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Posted: Feb 28, 2004 - 08:33 AM
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| About 10 mins or so full burner. It's not very long, as the plane eats up fuel like theres no tomorrow. |
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Posted: Feb 28, 2004 - 07:13 PM
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| If you had to stay in burner for ten minutes it would be because there would be no tomorrow if you don't... |
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Posted: May 06, 2004 - 09:06 PM
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| AB can only be used for a little while, the fuel flow is to fast and it wouldn't be able to catch up with itself and would run out of gas before it actually did. |
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Posted: May 06, 2004 - 11:31 PM
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WHAT!? That a joke?
These engines will run at MAX AB until there isn't enough fuel to fill the manifolds (PW) or bars (GE).
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STBYGAIN
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Posted: May 11, 2004 - 05:40 PM
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| No, that's not a joke, it's true. The fuel controls are fed from the fwd and aft reservoirs, each containing about 500#, and the pumps that replenish these can't match the 60,000PPH flows that I have personally experienced. |
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Posted: May 11, 2004 - 09:14 PM
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Well when we're running on the [Link pending approval] our tank runs dry! |
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Posted: May 12, 2004 - 02:18 AM
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No, that's not a joke, it's true. The fuel controls are fed from the fwd and aft reservoirs, each containing about 500#, and the pumps that replenish these can't match the 60,000PPH flows that I have personally experienced.
If I'm correct, wouldn't that mean you'd only have about 1 minute in burner? Wouldn't that be a potential liability in combat? |
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Posted: May 12, 2004 - 03:09 AM
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The pumps continue to supply the reservoirs, but not quite fast enough. Over time, you'll drain the reservoirs. The longest I've ever felt the need to stay in AB was about 3 minutes so it wasn't a player. I'm sure you could go longer though.
There's a note in the -1 about it as well, probably written in blood. |
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Posted: May 12, 2004 - 03:13 AM
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I see what you mean, shoulda thought about that myself!  Thanx for the insight!  Being an interested civilian, can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of the -1 or where I can read it? |
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Posted: May 12, 2004 - 06:46 AM
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parrothead wrote:
Being an interested civilian, can anyone tell me where I can get a copy of the -1 or where I can read it?
Enlist. 
Or get a civilian job working at Lockheed or another company involved with F-16 flight simulators... that's what I did!  |
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