Forum: Military Aircraft of the Cold War

Well, if I remember correctly, somebody gave the Shah the tooling to produce F-5s, hence the Saqueh-whatever thing they claim to be comparable to an F/A-18. Just because it has twin canted tails doesn't mean it's a Hornet.

And of course they're trying to build an LO jet trainer. I tend to take Iranian modifications of US weapons systems seriously, but that is just plain unbelievable.

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pafpilot wrote:

How do they maintain their tomcats and phantoms and tigers.I mean from where do they get the spare-parts.

Purchase a Commercial CAD program from Germany, connect that to a CAD aided milling and manufacturing machines.

New F-14 documentary... by Press TV, an Iranian state-run, English-language news service. I just started watching it, so I'm expecting the usual rank anti-Americanism and tall-tales about capability/readiness; but it is about F-14s in Iranian service, and the production value seems pretty good.

Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP-jDEWNyrM

Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgR9FijQ ... re=related

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKfU8lk3zdM

One of the Iranian f-14 pilots said(in a Iranian forum named ganjejang)that they have more than 50 operational and by themselves overhauled and fully upgraded electro avionics and radars and engines Tomcats.he said Iran manufactures aim-54c (phoenix ) missiles

I totally believe that Iran upgraded the avionics and radar on its Tomcats; it's also possible that they have local production of a Phoenix derivative. However, the '50 aircraft' claim doesn't make sense; I don't even think the IRIAF has fifty Tomcats in existence, let alone in operational condition.

Local production of a phoenix derivative? Anything to support that claim??

I've often wondered what they got in exchange for sharing the Tomcat's secrets with Russia. Imagine if they were able to integrate the Mig-31's avionics/AA-9 into their F-14's.

Now THAT would be something!

I've honestly never heard of Iranian AIM-54 production, but it doesn't sound incredibly unreasonable based on the various missiles they're producing domestically.

logic wrote:

One of the Iranian f-14 pilots said(in a Iranian forum named ganjejang)that they have more than 50 operational and by themselves overhauled and fully upgraded electro avionics and radars and engines Tomcats.he said Iran manufactures aim-54c (phoenix ) missiles

50 operational sounds like a stretch. Upgraded avionics/radar/engines isn't. Reverse engineering a Phoenix I wouldn't put past them.

It's easy to underestimate them given the age of the F-14 fleet but hopefully, no SuperBug driver will make that mistake...

Iran successfully produce a new generation of the globally known version of F14

An Iranian Air Force commander announced here on Tuesday that the country overhauls and optimizes different types of military aircraft, mentioning that Air Force has even installed Iran-made radar systems on the sophisticated F14 fighter jets.

"Indeed, it can be said that most airplanes have the previous designs but all of their components, including systems and parts, are being optimized and upgraded on a continued and regular basis," Iranian Air Force Lieutenant Commander for Coordination General Aziz Nasirzadeh said in an interview with FNA on Tuesday.

The commander stated that mounting optimized home-made 2,000-pound (900-kilogram) smart bombs, Qassed (Messenger), on Iranian bombers is an instance of the country's capability to upgrade its fighter jets.

The Iranian Army's Air Force announced in September that it has successfully test-fired Qassed (Messenger) 1and 2, in aerial drills over the Persian Gulf and the Sea of Oman.

Referring to the promotion of the systems and capabilities of F14 fighter jets, Nasirzadeh said, "…today we have a new generation of F14 fighters at our service, and its radar system has been upgraded by our local experts."

Reiterating that the new radar system has been built and installed on the F14 fighter jets by the Iranian personnel, the General added, "Therefore, we can enhance and upgrade it (radar) continuously.

The commander also pointed out that his forces have even upgraded the jet engines of F14, and said considering the numerous alterations that Iran has made to the radar system and the engines of F14, it can be said that what Iranian Air Force now has is a new generation of the globally known version of F14.

He further announced that Iran has already started a move to manufacture aircraft engines and has achieved acceptable results in this regard.

Iran has recently made good progress in the air industry and succeeded in gaining the technical know-how for producing stealth aircraft and drones.

In September 2009, Iran displayed the first squadron of Saeqeh (Thunderbolt) fighter jets produced by its defense industries in an air show staged during military parades at the beginning of the Week of Sacred Defense, marking Iranians' sacrifices during the 8 years of Iraqi imposed war on Iran in 1980s.

http://arabiandefense.blogspot.ca/2010/ ... e-new.html

Would LOVE to believe this. While I suppose anything can be hiding in that big nose cone, there simply isn't any disguising the fact a TF-30 is still, well - a TF-30 engine. I suppose you could squeeze a few 1000lbs of thrust more out of it, or make it less prone to compressor stalls etc, but it'll never be a GE F-110.

And LORD knows it'll never outclass the Super-Duper Hornet... Smile

Hornets forever...

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mixelflick wrote:

Local production of a phoenix derivative? Anything to support that claim??

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Fakour(very thinker) missile is the name of iranian made phoenix revealrd in Iranian army paprade( Apr 18 2013) in Tehran

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pardon me, depite of that the photo is not huge , I do not know why i can not upload the picture of Fakour missile (its number in photo gallery is 625492)

Forum: Military Aircraft of the Cold War

Iranian F-14 Tomcats still flying?