F-35A maneuverability vs F-16 block 50 (in USAF service)
More maneuverable
52%
[ 28 ]
Less maneuverable
35%
[ 19 ]
The same
11%
[ 6 ]
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Raptor_One
Posted: Sep 23, 2006 - 12:10 PM
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Sorry, but I wouldn't waste my time trying to approximate the performance of the F-35. I just find it amusing that some people here insist on "approximating" the F-35's performance via their intuition (which they must think is really great). I don't have a strong desire to know how good or bad the F-35 will perform. I refuse to speculate on these matters in a purely qualitative sense.
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Posted: Sep 23, 2006 - 08:38 PM
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habu2 wrote:
...and your need to know is???
I don't have a need to know. But my desire to know is by no means high enough to waste time trying making rough approximations. That's all I meant. One can still do a rough approximation of a fighter's performance based on empirical formulae, classical aerodynamic and propulsion analysis, and extrapolation of remaining unknows from the same (known) variables of older designs. Nobody wants to do this, but some still insist they know how draggy the F-35's airframe is, how much thrust its engine puts out, how much/little lift its wings produce, how much AoA it can pull, and so on. All this based on not one single semi-reasonable numerical approximation.
You are officially trolling. I won't feed you anymore.
I totally agree. Posts by sampaix have been nothing but argumentative and confrontational since he(?) started posting in this forum. Attitudes like his only drive people away from forums that are otherwise helpful and informative.
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checksixx
Posted: Sep 27, 2006 - 06:47 PM
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This topic is still a moot point as the F-35 has NEVER flown. Restart it once we see FE testing.
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Posted: Sep 27, 2006 - 06:59 PM
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checksixx wrote:
This topic is still a moot point as the F-35 has NEVER flown. Restart it once we see FE testing.
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It's not like they're going to publish the results of the F-35's turning performance. I suppose if they decide to take it on the road to airshows and put on displays similar to the ones you see from F-16s, then you'd have an idea of its relative maneuverability.
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Posted: Sep 28, 2006 - 05:29 PM
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The F-35 isnt a maneuverability competitor to the Typhoon. We are only discussing its merits versus the legacy platforms it is replacing. IE: F-16, F/A-18, and AV-8B
If you wish to discuss its merits versus the Typhoon, a thread for that exists already.
The F-35 will outperform all of its legacy platforms in terms of manuverability with similar combat loadouts. IE 8 SDBs, 1 AIM-120, 1 AIM-9X internally versus an F-16 with a similar loadout.
Even an F-35 with 6 AAMs internally will outperform an F-16 with 6 AAMs on its wings.
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I suppose if they decide to take it on the road to airshows and put on displays similar to the ones you see from F-16s, then you'd have an idea of its relative maneuverability.