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Hello,

I would like to discuss some differences between the AIM9-X and IRIS-T, like accuracy, range, cost per unit (probably this item is classified) and also know what is the best choice to load on F-16 MLU.

thanks Cool

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Salute,
I've already seen a launch of an IRIS-T (RNoAF). And that's not much, however it's more than I've seen about AIM9-X. Still for tradition I must be an AIM9 fan for loading those beauties for 15+ years and I still love it.
STD I wish I knew more about the "X", I´m sorry I can´t make a better input for this forum but I´m waiting to learn about the "X". Cheers

Some detailed info about the [url]9X:http://sistemadearmas.sites.uol.com.br/aam/aim9x2.html[/url]

The site is in Portuguese, but at least the numbers can be understand.

Also here there is a video "Unleashing the Next Generation Sidewinder". The missile agility is indeed awsome.

Anybody bi-lingual who likes to type????

Partial translation from Babelfish :

babelfish wrote:

DEVELOPMENT the flight of tests of the AIM-9X forms initiated in 1998 in the form of the Box Office 2 in called joint program USN/USAF Seek Eagle. The flight tests had lasted 18 months in realístas scenes. The first launching was in March of 1999 for control of separation in F-15C and F/A-18.

Test from the F/A-18C. The missile was authorized for launching of the F/A-18 maneuvering until 6g's and the F-15 maneuvering -1g until +9g's

The guided tests had been between 1999 and 2000. The first detonation against real target was in June of 1999 of a F/A-18D Hornet against a QF-4 in an angle off-boresight average lateral for backwards, beyond the capacity of the AIM-9M, na.presença of countermeasures and return de.solo of the desert. As it was in September from a F-15C Eagle.

Had been 19 guided tests and 22 launchings of separation, being 10 missiles production standard. More tests will be carried through add. The missile successfully reached 18 targets in 19 detonations guided against drones QF-4. The last detonation was in 21 of April of 2000 being the first one of Avaliação Operacional (OPEVAL).

A F/A-18C engaged a QF-4 in a great angle of detonation and long distance with direct rightness. The target was acquired with the radar for being beyond the visual reach. The Hornet was maneuvered for beyond the vision of the radar and the AIM-9X kept the pursuing of the target. The OPEVAL will include 11 detonations of USAF and 11 of the US Navy more (5 with ogive and 6 with telemetry)

The article is way long so if you want the whole translation, go to Babelfish and cut-n-paste up to 150 words at a time. Select "Portugese to English" from the drop down list.

There's a way to translate the entire web page in Bablefish, just put the URL into the "link-holder" and select your languages.

It does a good job...

I like the "A F/A-18C engaged a QF-4 in a great angle of detonation and long distance with direct rightness." That should go in the manufacturers brochure...

Rocky

A question for some of the members in the know here about the JHMCS and AIM-9x.

What does the JHMCS/HOBS AAM (AIM-9x) combo buy for the Viper or any other US aircraft against super-manueverable Russian aircraft like the SU-30MKI or SU-35 with TVC/TVN & canards configuration?

I mean in WVR combat, does this capability considerably negate the advantages that a TVC equipped aircraft like Su-30 would have against an F-16 or an F-15? I think so but was looking for comments with more knowledge and depth.

As a contextual point, I remember reading that in WVR combat, all aircraft have the same probability of dying...the only difference is the enhanced situational awareness that one may have over the other....with that in mind, I believe there have been some WVR exercises with F-22s and other teen fighters and supposedly the teen (Viper, eagle etc.) fighters did not do that bad...now I am wondering is that is due to the cueuing systems (JHMCS) available to them or was it something else.

here are some 9X videos:
http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/search/?q=AIM-9X

blain2 wrote:

A question for some of the members in the know here about the JHMCS and AIM-9x.

What does the JHMCS/HOBS AAM (AIM-9x) combo buy for the Viper or any other US aircraft against super-manueverable Russian aircraft like the SU-30MKI or SU-35 with TVC/TVN & canards configuration?

I mean in WVR combat, does this capability considerably negate the advantages that a TVC equipped aircraft like Su-30 would have against an F-16 or an F-15? I think so but was looking for comments with more knowledge and depth.

As a contextual point, I remember reading that in WVR combat, all aircraft have the same probability of dying...the only difference is the enhanced situational awareness that one may have over the other....with that in mind, I believe there have been some WVR exercises with F-22s and other teen fighters and supposedly the teen (Viper, eagle etc.) fighters did not do that bad...now I am wondering is that is due to the cueuing systems (JHMCS) available to them or was it something else.

More than likely JHMCS + Aim-9x combo... shove a HOBS + HMS combo on a B757 (and im not joking... watch the RNZAF display and you'll know what i mean) and it won't do too bad against an F-22. Laughing

. Damn that display last weekend out-turned a Tornado and Rivaled a Viper! "This is your captain speaking Knife Edge turn on rotation anyone?"

Andy

TVC wont help in WVR. Its mainly there for supersonic turning. Or for Russian aircraft to perform circus acts.

Quote:

TVC wont help in WVR

It would help in an environment without HMS and off-boresight heaters.

An environment which is slowly diminished.

Couldnt hurt that precious turn to a missile's T-Line either. And even with Helmet/Heater/HOBS combo, you still only have X missiles. If you have to fight X+1 fighters, better be prepared to turn in hard and make a nice gun kill.

-Aaron

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