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Would the Squadron/Flight/Driver would be kept quiet in preparation for retaliation? Seems to me the heroes I.D.s are bound to get out.

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Seems to me the heroes I.D.s are bound to get out.


Since when you get to be called a hero for pushing a few buttons?

Anyway, good news, congrats to the pilots but if I were in their place, I wouldn't want my identity to be published - at least not yet. If that happens they might find a reward on their heads promised by Al-Quaeda. Not to speak about their families.

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This was a team work, all men and women on iraq are heroes.

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...a better copy of the "Viper" strike video made against Al-Zarqawi and his band of goons Wednesday evening?

Hell'va a day for the Viper and her crews..I salute you all, proud of you all.

I'd like to see a strike video is it has been posted yet other then the last few seconds from the CNN released video.

Good day in the fight against terrorism....nice one boys and girls...nice!
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Good on the Viper driver, but good on the intel guys too. That has got to be one of the most frustrating jobs over there, trying to gather useful intel in that chaos.
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CNN wrote:
Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said the $25 million bounty the U.S. put on al-Zarqawi's head would be honored, The Associated Press reported. "We will meet our promise," he told al-Arabiya television, the AP reported.

Air Force Lt. Gen. Gary North said two F-16s already in the air over Iraq were diverted to the target.

One jet acted as a targeting guide while the other first dropped a laser-guided bomb to ensure the house was hit, and then followed with a satellite-guided bomb to ensure it was destroyed, North said.

Casey said al-Zarqawi was dead when Iraqi security forces arrived on the scene minutes after the airstrike.

Among the five other people who died in the attack were al-Rahman, along with a woman and a child who had not yet been identified. (Watch how attacks turned nearby houses to heaps of cinder blocks -- 3:23)

In the hours following the airstrike, forces carried out 17 simultaneous raids in Baghdad and its outskirts, which Caldwell said yielded a "treasure trove" of information.

Al-Maliki and Casey announced al-Zarqawi's death to applause in Baghdad.

"Iraqis can rejoice," said Caldwell, who showed reporters photos of al-Zarqawi's body after the raid. "They have earned it with their blood, their sweat and their tears."

'Special place in hell'
In statements posted on two Islamic Web sites, al Qaeda in Iraq confirmed al-Zarqawi's death and urged its followers to continue the insurgent fight. "People of Islam, God will not let our enemies celebrate and spread corruption in the ground:.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair, a staunch Bush ally, said, "A blow for al Qaeda in Iraq is a blow for al Qaeda everywhere."

U.S. Sen. Joe Biden, a Delaware Democrat, was more direct. "There's a special place in hell reserved for him," he said of al-Zarqawi.

Caldwell said it was likely al-Zarqawi had planned for his death or capture and identified a replacement, possibly naming Egyptian-born Abu al-Masri as a successor. It was also likely that al Qaeda in Iraq would reassert itself to prove it was "still a viable insurgent organization," Caldwell said.

"Every time a Zarqawi appears we will kill him," al-Maliki said. "We will continue confronting whoever follows his path."

The ranking Democrat on the Senate Armed Services Committee, Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, told reporters, "We have to expect that there will be efforts made to attack us."

"The major problem Iraq has is not an insurgency -- which for the most part is not an al Qaeda creation -- but a sectarian feud and fighting," he said.

Allegiance to bin Laden
Al-Zarqawi, 39, gained notoriety in February 2003, when then-Secretary of State Colin Powell appeared before the U.N. Security Council to make his case supporting the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Powell pointed to al-Zarqawi, then believed to have been in Baghdad, as evidence that al Qaeda had a presence in Iraq. (Watch how al-Zarqawi's kin feel about his death -- :20)

Al-Zarqawi was the leader of one of the nation's many insurgent factions. In October 2004, al-Zarqawi pledged his allegiance to al Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden, and renamed his group al Qaeda in Iraq. (Relief for bin Laden?)

Al Qaeda in Iraq was blamed for brazen terrorist attacks, including a 2003 suicide bombing of U.N. headquarters in Baghdad that killed the U.N. envoy to Iraq and 21 others, and the November bombing of three hotels in Amman, Jordan, in which 60 people died.

Al-Zarqawi is believed to have been involved in the abductions and beheadings of several Western hostages. In addition, the United States believes al-Zarqawi had appealed to al Qaeda for help in starting a civil war in Iraq and encouraged sectarian violence. (Watch how al-Zarqawi murdered his way to the most-wanted list -- 2:50)

CNN's Jamie McIntyre, Barbara Starr, Henry Schuster and journalist Randa Habib contributed to this report.

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all men and women on iraq are heroes


Yeah, right, everybody's a hero these days....

I do not doubt the patriotism, profesionalism and willingness to get the job done of the troops in Iraq. I'm just saying that we shouldn't get overexcited and start throwing around big words. Heroes are few and far between - the real ones, not the ones named so by the media in its rush for the senational.

Only the communist propaganda said that the whole army mas made up of heroes... Wink

IMHO, the only ones who would deserve to be called heroes in this particular case are the SPECFOR guys who spent lots of days undercover, alone, in "enemy" territory, gathering intel.

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You fly into harms way, make your mission count and live to fly another day to fight terrorism or any armed conflict..their a hero to me too.

Just like fear, courage is a person is taking positive action in the face of fear in spite of the dangers...these guys and gals are heros in my book, they did not turn or run, they faced their fears and did the right thing....that is courage and if the word hero is used with...so be it.

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I saw the strike video that was posted here (this forum) thanks....nice to see it.

My son - in - law (Captain USAF) heads out to Baghdad tomorrow morning, o dark thirty, my son will soon follow (again).


Job Well Done - salute.
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It was GBU-12 500 pound LGBs. We would use these in high CD target areas and they also have a tight CEP. If you watch the video, in the last 10 seconds of time of flight (TOF) of the bomb (the count down is on the lower right side of the TGT Pod video) the "L" to the lower right side of the cross hairs is flashing - idicating the targeting pod is firing it's laser, i.e guiding the bomb. Some times when they drop JDAM they will still image the target with the pod, but the flashing "L" indicates they were guiding.

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They are heroes, because they accomplished what they wanted to do in this life, and they got rewarded with the chance to strap in that seat everyday for the rest of their career, they were picked among the best, they trained with the best and they flew with the best, now they fly into the harms way everyday without fretting, sweating, showing any kind of fear for their country. It is kind of harsh to narrow their job to just a "button-press"... In my opinion. I can not call not one single service member loyally serving over there right now "No hero" They all are.

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It was GBU-12 500 pound LGBs. We would use these in high CD target areas and they also have a tight CEP. If you watch the video, in the last 10 seconds of time of flight (TOF) of the bomb (the count down is on the lower right side of the TGT Pod video) the "L" to the lower right side of the cross hairs is flashing - indicating the targeting pod is firing it's laser, i.e guiding the bomb. Some times when they drop JDAM they will still image the target with the pod, but the flashing "L" indicates they were guiding.


This was one of my questions, Fox report said it was the Spec Ops painting the target, but that is media, video shows clearly.

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Bushmaster....I agree 100% with your comments on all the troops and these brave aviators being "hero's", we should never take for granted what was so hard to achieve - well said my man, well said!

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Well, if you feel you need to call them heroes, go ahead.

I tend to believe that the term applies only to those who distinguish themselves trough EXCEPTIONAL actions, not to ALL those who do their job...after all not everybody gets a Purple Heart or a Victoria Cross.

Romania also has troops in Iraq since 2003 and the only ones called heroes were those who came back in a box - I guess the meaning of the word "hero" is a bit more restrictive out here.

My point is that if you call all of them heroes how are you going to call those who accomplish extraordinary feats of courage?

P.S. Meathook, I wish you'll see both your son and your son-in-law back unharmed.

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RoAF..thanks...god knows I feel the same as any parent, family member or friend would (and as many on this board do)...many ta's my man, thanks!

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Thank god you don't just have to come home in a body bag to be a hero (although they are) they gave it all for us just as the folks that risk it all now (globally) are doing.

After Vietnam, the Gulf and Bosnia, I think it is heroic to serve one's country in peacetime or war.

Funny, ever notice many citizens really never do (serve their country) but often complain about their government, their military or the way folks protect their land.

I think these types of people are generally never happy with their life or government collectively, they just bitch and moan and expect everything to be given to them so they don't get my respect or admiration, those that do or have served .....do get my respect in spades.

So I take them (non servers) into account and wish them well in life and leave it at that.

I found there are do'ers and watchers in life.

The do'ers are wearing their uniforms (military, police, fire department, hospitals, serving society in someway shape or form, doing their part) in these trying times.

I salute their efforts and call them accordingly (as you mentioned earlier...hero's) someone has to guard the door or gates of the nation...right, someone has to step up the the plate!

As many average civilians discovered in NYC, London and around the globe after such terrorist acts (being fought now), heroism seems to come in all shapes, sizes and acts or deeds of bravery or giving of one's self.

Hopefully, the person that lives to later tell that tale later never really feels like a hero, I know I don't. Like you say, they just did their job but the respect we (collectively) have for them and their deeds gives them that name.

But I see the point your making, your just at a different level by choice, that's fine by me, so please accept my sentiments as I displayed some of them here.

Anyone who has ever served is a hero to their nation and me...I choose to feel that way about their unselfish acts and deeds....that as you say IS all by choice.

I think my boys (family of course) are heroic, now hopefully they don't feel the need to perform an additional act of bravery to prove their worth but if it does happen, I hope they act accordingly as any man should.

Their hero's to me right now without being shot at, that act (if or when it might occur) only strengthens my love for them and those (globally) under similar circumstances...having been there myself (shot and killed people in war), I know what I feel about it, having lived through it and dealing with my nightmares and demons that started over 35 years ago!

I respect your views and your comments about my family.........

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