Forum: F-16 News

Do you really love Turkey? Spend money in education, not in arms. Greeks do not threat you any more - heart attacks, strokes, viruses and cancer do. Be prepared.

By the way, Hurriyet, citing Air Force sources reported that VTR video of the second F-16 in Turkish formation was submitted to NATO.

Let me clarify. You stay on your side! You don't come to other people's airspace unless permitted to do so. You file a flight plan, if you want to fly around, islands are GREEK, they have airspace over them. Simple. You are taking things to personal level on this forum, this is an abuse of the rules. You are attacking people and then acting like nothing has happened. You have been warned, your messages have been deleted, yet you continue this behavior. Not that I really care, you are drawing an incredibly suitable "Turkish" image the rest of the modern civilized nations to recognize. EU? I hope not with the likes of you. Otto must be the abb. for Ottoman!

International law indicated that all aircraft flying inside a FIR should inform the respective Air Control (in this case Athens) of precise flight-plans. Not NATO. A country is obligated to identify unknown flying objects within its FIR with any means available.

Q: Since you have recognized the Athens FIR a few moments ago so-called something which has been granted to Greece via the (inaudible) Convention, I wonder, do you recognize the Athens FIR? And number two, what is the relation between DoD and (inaudible)?

A: By using the term so-called, I was using that to give its full name. The FIR is called the flight information region. I didn't mean to minimize its importance in any way. But our policy towards the FIR is unchanged. We recognize that as a commercial flight zone that does not apply to military flights. U.S. military flights I should say.

Oh this is the video our brave (but absent) 191st pilot Mr.191cobra had seen and mentioned here, too bad we can not see it also.

Oh this is the video our brave (but absent) 191st pilot Mr.191cobra had seen and mentioned here, too bad we can not see it also.

Athens does not blame Turkish pilot as it prepares for Bakoyannis-Gul talks Senior government sources told Kathimerini yesterday that the collision between a Greek and a Turkish fighter jet over the Aegean that appears to have resulted in the death of the Greek pilot was an accident and not the fault of the Turkish pilot.
According to video footage examined by defense and government officials, the Greek F-16 had attempted to approach the Turkish jet and the photoreconnaissance plane it was escorting so the pilot could read the markings on the plane.
This move requires the two aircraft to be some 300 meters from each other.
The Turkish F-16 attempted to block the Greek jet, at which point Captain Costas Iliakis accelerated to get closer to the photoreconnaissance plane but collided with the fighter plane instead. As the Turkish jet was above the Greek one, the Turkish pilot was able to eject safely.
The pilot was rescued south of Karpathos by a Panamanian-flagged ship and refused help from Greek rescuers who boarded the vessel, telling them he was not hurt and wanted to be collected by Turkish forces.
Senior government sources denied reports that the Turkish pilot drew his side arm when the Greek rescuers approached him.
Ankara and Athens have sought to maintain calm in the wake of the crash. Sources told Kathimerini that the incident would have a major impact on the upcoming meeting between the countries’ foreign ministers, Dora Bakoyannis and Abdullah Gul.
They are due meet in Istanbul on June 10 and sources said that ways of defusing tension between Greece and Turkey will dominate the agenda for their talks.
However, Greece warned Turkey that it should not take advantage of the good will between the two countries. “Greece’s policy toward Turkey is sincere but it is by no means a blank check,” said Foreign Ministry spokesman Giorgos Koumoutsakos.

Are HAF blk 52+ being fitted with ASPIS II? When?

I was reading about plans to upgrade HAF blk 30/50. Does anyone have any info on that? Will they be upgaded to "blk52+ Advanced" standards?

Allegedly, French PM showed interest in Tuesday's incident and brought up Rafale's candidacy as the new 4th generation fighter for HAF in his discussions with Greek PM in Paris.

Thanks.

does anybody have a good link with the history of Tigermeet with a complete photo retrospective? The way this is organised it seems to be unlikely such a link to exist.

Because of guys like you and what they say conflicts never end.