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Asif
PostPosted: May 26, 2006 - 10:59 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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I see people are not heeding my previous message of staying on topic. I think we've had enough Political, Geo-Social information in this thread for now. If you feel you need to continue your debate, exchange email addresses and take it of this board.

If I see material not relating to the subject matter I'll begin using the delete button a little bit more....

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Yes, all TuAF F-16 squadrons have their tails painted with their squadron patches...I dont have full list, may be some of out Turkish friends can post them here....
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here's the tail of 139, 330 sqn.



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bozz wrote:
Does anyone know birds painted in other schemes? Pics would be welcomed.


Some TuAF tails from the photo gallery


TUAF F-16, #89-0032, tailview. This aircraft belongs to the 141 Filo


Tail detail of TUAF F-16C block 40 #91-0002 at Aalborg AB on May 1st, 2002. Note the Eagle-Bat logo on the tail.


Detail of two TUAF F-16C's waiting for their take-off clearance at Konya AB during the NATO Air Meet held there in September 2004.


Tail detail of TuAF F-16C block 50 #93-0690 is parked on the tarmac at Balikesir AB during the Tigermeet 2005 edition.


Tail detail of TuAF F-16C block 50 #93-0660 sitting on the ramp at Balikesir AB during the Tigermeet 2005.

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Let's carry on with our topic:

::Admin editted: Lets NOT continue with some parts of your discussion::

Fantasma, what I really know is that FIR is about commercial flights and does not really encompass military stuff. That's the reason we do not hand in the flight plans to Athens directly but to the NATO headquarters.
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Here's the best HAF Tail I've seen.


Tail detail of HAF F-16C block 30 #136 from 346 Mira adorned with special markings applied to celebrate both 15 years of F-16 service within 346 Mira and also 40.000 accident free hours.

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Otto i think though that military aircraft are not allowed to fly above some altitude. I was trying to find maybe some info on the regulations.. Its funny .. third hit:

Canadian Food Inspection Agency - Fish, Seafood and Production ... Fish Inspection Regulations (FIR), CRC, 1978, c.802; Part I, General. ... 5.10.3 Reference documents, including the FIR regulations, Shared/Enhanced QMPI ...

Long live google. Anyway that's all.

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Dear friends,

I am not an expert of military aviation but I have a feeling why this accident occured. First of all I am so sorry for the Greek aviator, for his family and for his country.

I read lots of information here and hear from press. What I have just started to believe is that I think the HAF Captain just tried to shake the leading Turkish F-16 by passing so fast from below and under its nose but unfortunately couldnt estimate the velocity, time and angle and simply hit it hard from below and under its belly...

I know this is like a movie scenario but I think a lot about this accident and nothing else looks me logical to cause this mid-air. Can it be possible? What do you think?
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Asif, thanks!
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OK, if any knows there were Greek media telling that there was a Turkish Frigate named Muavenet if i write it correctly east, north east of Crete.

Does anybody knows more about this? It is said the Frigate was supportive to the Turkish formation mission. True?
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Just a few minutes ago relased from Associated Press according to Hurriyet..Orders from Turkish Airforce Command to their pilots who fly over Aegean be cautious because of the incident frightened for "revenge" from Haf pilots..
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dkarko wrote:
I thought that military aircraft are not allowed to fly above some altitude. I was trying to find maybe some info on the regulations..


I did a quick search and did not find a definitive answer. But I did find this good link worth a read on Airspace.

http://www.faa.gov/ATpubs/AIM/chap3toc.htm

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It's quite logical to give that order since haf pilots look alittle too emotional.reports indicate that its a strange accident and its difficult to understand why haf captain got so close to his counter-part. So the professionals should calm it down. We are neighbouring allies at the end and naturally and politically both sides are sorry enough for this loss of life.
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FANTASMA wrote:
OK, if any knows there were Greek media telling that there was a Turkish Frigate named Muavenet if i write it correctly east, north east of Crete.

Does anybody knows more about this? It is said the Frigate was supportive to the Turkish formation mission. True?


All news about ex-Knox type F-250 Muavenet being in the vicinity are cited from Greek media. So there are no detailed information about this in Turkey.

By the way, Hurriyet, citing Air Force sources reported that VTR video of the second F-16 in Turkish formation was submitted to NATO.
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Orders from Turkish Airforce Command to their pilots who fly over Aegean be cautious because of the incident frightened for "revenge" from Haf pilots..


So we'll start all over again huh fantasma? Very Happy
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