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 Posted: May 16, 2006 - 07:13 PM
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CARACAS, Venezuela
Venezuela is considering selling its fleet of U.S.-made F-16 fighter jets to another country, perhaps Iran, in response to a U.S. ban on arms sales to President Hugo Chavez's government, a military official said Tuesday.
Gen. Alberto Muller, a senior adviser to Chavez, told The Associated Press he had recommended to the defense minister that Venezuela consider selling the 21 jets to another country.
Muller said he thought it was worthwhile to consider "the feasibility of a negotiation with Iran for the sale of those planes."
Even before the U.S. announced the ban on arms sales Monday, Washington had stopped selling Venezuela sensitive upgrades for the F- 16s.
Chavez has previously warned he could share the U.S. jets with Cuba if Washington does not supply parts for the planes. He also has said he may look into buying fighter jets from Russia or China instead.
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Posted: May 16, 2006 - 07:47 PM
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Empty threats from Chavez, as usual.
I'm not saying they're empty as in 'he won't do it', but empty as in 'does this make any difference'?
What is Iran/Cuba going to do with old Block 15 planes with no access to spare parts or foreign expertise? They'd much rather buy new Russian planes. |
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Posted: May 16, 2006 - 07:51 PM
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| Indeed, and for the technology it isn't necesarry too, they have the info already, from Pakistan and General Dynamics at the time, as they placed a huge order for the f-16A at the time. These planes are not state of-the art anymore now too. |
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Posted: May 16, 2006 - 07:53 PM
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| Recent edition of combat aircraft somethingorother details Iran's previously thought to be unsucessful efforts at upgrading thier Tomcats. Seems they could keep them flying better than we could. I just dont like the idea of Iran having as capable of an airframe as the f-16....whatever block it may be. |
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Posted: May 16, 2006 - 08:12 PM
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Well, first of all if you are banned from buying weapons (at least from one source) you don't start selling what you already have. f-16 is the premir fighter of the FAV and I don't see them giving it up until they have an OPERATIONAL replacement in SUFFICIENT numbers.
Second, I don't think Iran is too keen to add yet another type to their already too many various types. They already have 8 (EIGHT) different types: F-4, 5, 14; Su-24, 25; MiG-29; F-7; Mirage F1 all in numbers ranging from 20-60 (operational). Adding another 20 planes of a different type would be too much of an effort in exchange to what they would gain in terms of capabilities. |
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Posted: May 16, 2006 - 08:15 PM
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RoAF wrote:
Second, I don't think Iran is too keen to add yet another type to their already too many various types.
Haha....like they wouldnt make an exception for the mighty viper? right |
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Posted: May 16, 2006 - 08:20 PM
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| aokeeffe, the "mighty viper" from Venezuela is some 20 years old, has no BVR capabilities, no ECM whatsoever and a downgraded APG-66. |
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Posted: May 16, 2006 - 08:37 PM
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Good ol' cousin hugo, always good for a chortle when you have a slow press day. This sounds like it would hurt both air forces, not that I'm opposed to that idea. From what I've heard (could be wrong), FAV's jets are barely MC enough to taxi a lot of the time, to say nothing of being effective flyers.
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Posted: May 18, 2006 - 03:59 AM
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| He is a flash in the pan but his people seem to like him...why is beyond me though, he is such a putz |
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Posted: May 18, 2006 - 05:32 AM
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| Like I said before, he seems like some spoiled child that was given control of a country. When he dies, I'm gonna go and urinate on his grave. Who wants to join me? |
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Posted: May 18, 2006 - 01:26 PM
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Posted: May 18, 2006 - 03:12 PM
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all is just stupid words from those who dont know anything about it...
Chavez think that fighter is like airliners and Gen Muller might knows about fighters that they are planes and nothing much more... |
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Posted: May 18, 2006 - 03:24 PM
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Now if they showed up on E-bay for private sale, that might make the US Government mad?
(I'll start counting out my spare change.......  ) |
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Posted: May 18, 2006 - 03:52 PM
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| Faust...what the hell are you talking about? The President of Venezuela is a putz, just another backstabbing putz...it is pretty clear to most in the world..even if you dont see it...your sentence needs to be a bit more defined so we know what it is your trying to say - Thanks |
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Posted: May 18, 2006 - 04:25 PM
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Like I said before, he seems like some spoiled child that was given control of a country. When he dies, I'm gonna go and urinate on his grave. Who wants to join me?
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I'll aim high, so I get his name and marker
You guys want to join me in that activity after Castro dies (hopefully SOON!  ) ? I can't wait for Havana to be the Las Vegas of the Caribbean again  !
Seriously, I don't see how Iran would benefit from F-16s except from some type of confusing activity with some painted in U.S. schemes. Even then we'd see 'em coming from a long way off with the wrong IFF codes and it would be AMRAAM time followed shortly by Miller time  !
Now, if they only go Ebay  ... |
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