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Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 1161

Forgot to include a revelant part of the quote, the "they" he is talking about specifically are A-10s.

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Meathook wrote:

The F4 (SUU 23 Gatling Gun) pictured (somewhere above )does spit its casing into the atmosphere, of course, we know the F-16 keeps there's.

Thanks

Was wondering about that. What`s the deal with the A-10s Avenger?

P.s. New this sh@t would be flame bait! The thread title should have been...."Vipers in the Med` have a fun, gentlemanly time pretending to swat each other, boys will be boys".... Cool

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Ah, got that GUYSMILEY, just posted too slowly, thanks...

Elite 2K Joined: May 13, 2004 Posts: 2945 Location: Utah

A-10 Avenger...what do you mean, never heard of that one or do you mean the Warthog (A-10)?

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Yep, A-10`s GAU-8 "AVENGER"cannon. GUYSMILEY just said it doesn`t spit out any casings...keeps them in the drum.

I wonder why you would keep casings onboard some aircraft and not others? Do discarded casings cause an ingestion hazard to engines?? Or is it just the way particular guns work?
What happens to ammo links? Are they spewed out of the aircraft or kept onboard?

Elite 2K Joined: May 13, 2004 Posts: 2945 Location: Utah

A little of each case, don't want to FOD someone behind you, or spill them on the earth (some poor slob gets hit with it) and sometimes, they can still be recycled for other uses. Uranium tipped 30MM's are no good to anybody but they cant be just tossed away...bio hazard too.

F4 days, no one seemed to care EPA and such got involved, a few folks hit by them too...changed everything.

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Thanks for that MEATHOOK!

Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 1161

The ammo is not linked, it actually has to be "delinked" while being loaded into the ammo drum.

If you look at the GAU-8 outside of the airframe you see what looks like two ammo feed belts going to the gun, one on each side. One is a feed in from the front of the drum, one is the return that carries casings back to the rear of the drum.

As mentioned, it is for FOD reasons, but also I think they may reprocess and recycle the empty casings rather than just toss them.

Check out this pic I found of a GAU-8 after firing a full ammo drum. The stuff burning is the insulation on the sensors wired up to it for the test. Very Happy

Elite 1K Joined: Jul 26, 2005 Posts: 1455 Status: Offline

That GAU-8 is a DEMON! So, it`s ammo is classed as "linkless". After loading...hmmm.

Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 1161

I realize this is totally Off Topic

, but yep in the case of the GAU-8 there is an endless chain of "round carriers" that run through the ammo chuting each carrying a live round to the gun, then carrying an empty round back to the drum.

The M61 system in current US jets has basically the same linkless drum setup (on a smaller scale). This site has a good page on it in the "Armament" section.

so meathook, as you wrote so much about what I've said, you must have taken it so serious. What has the last day's event in Turkey got to do with our topic? What is the aim of yours writing all the details about it? You and your country is the one who sells all the armanent to both TR and GR, all te the part of the world. Your country is the one, whose economy stands on weapon sales. Your goverment's strategy is to manage the world through keeping soldier everywhere, where you have armed before.

then could you please remember Oklohoma City bombing? Wasn't that an army guy, who killed innocent children? what about the two gunmen who raided the high school and gunned down a score of people, weren't they also students? And many more events...

Same things happen both in my country and yours. Extremists exist all over the world. But I least, we are not the ones who invaded Iraq and we are not the ones who is responsible for the death of civillians running after a lie that claims there were mass destruction weapons in Iraq.

and one more thing, İf I'm not using bad language over here, please you also behave and take care of which words you choose to express yourself.

Elite 1K Joined: May 10, 2005 Posts: 1137 Status: Offline

Great.....1D 10 T alert. Super of you to start this lame Barbara Streisand up again. Oh my, yes once again, the baby-eatin' cretins in the US have again spoiled an otherwise perfectly peaceful world situation by pure knuckle-dragging imperialism.....yes we get it....yawn.

Got anything new at all?

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This thread seems to start getting out of hand. I'll put a lock on it.

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