Forum: F-22A Raptor

Elite 1K Joined: Aug 19, 2004 - 09:19 AM Posts: 1092

I highly doubt the people who actually know the answers to questions like the one at the beginning of this thread are reading this forum and thinking about whether or not they should answer. If I was an F-22 engineer or pilot I would find this forum pretty boring. If I did happen to browse through it once in a while and saw a thread like this, I'd NEVER respond in any sort of way. It wouldn't even cross my mind to respond. Someone with the answers to these sorts of questions no doubt has a very high security clearance level and has to pass things like lie detector tests whenever their clearance comes up for review/renewal. The fact that some people release information on boards like these and get in trouble as a result only indicates how little sensitive information some people with security clearances have access to. I have an inlaw that says nothing about his job to anyone except the most basic of details. As in, not even his wife knows what he does at work. When he got stationed in Japan for a while, she still didn't know what he was doing. She made the move with him across the world but never got a specific reason.

Anyone who knows the answers to questions like these and actually answers them is the definition of a traitor. You hear about them on the news every once in a while. I also have trouble believing some foreign government would employ people to troll these sorts of message boards in hopes of gaining a tactical advantage in some future war. LOL! C'mon now. People who are dumb enough to get scammed into giving out sensitive information (like their SSN, bank account number, etc) to people they don't know live low down on the information food chain.

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You are absolutely correct. Nobody connected with the program would reveal anything about the F-22 other than that which gets released through press offices, and has been cleared. Mostly PR stuff. If anything at all. Hmm, never really aimed my post at those fellas`.

The people whom would feel at ease are the people contributing to this forum. They tend to not want to offer help or opinion on a wide range of general, unclassified stuff when people get silly. There is a wealth of information/knowledge and they illuminate this place with great stories. anecdotes and the like.

That all goes away when somebody asks silly questions.

Elite 1K Joined: Aug 19, 2004 - 09:19 AM Posts: 1092

I guess what I meant to say is that it's highly unlikely someone who unkowingly releases "sensitive" information probably isn't privy to very sensitive information to begin with. I mean... even janitors might have secret clearances just because they do clean-up work in sensitive areas. Who knows? That's an extreme example of course.

The best way to get information on high technology is via technical papers, journals, and public domain defense analysts like Jane's and whatnot. Questions about radar capabilities and the like could probably be guessed at by reading a bunch of electrical engineering technical journals. You have to actually understand what you're reading in those things though.

Lots of info around about Link16 and and MIDS. It's nato standard and MANY know it, Even google brings good results already.

The interesting question will be how much information the F-22 can feed back into the network without beeing deteced by the enemys passive sensors.

What kind of tactics will be invented on the electronic battlefield.

What angular and maybe even range resolution (the laws of pysics make it obviosu that direct range measurement will be pretty unprecise)does the RWR of a single jet reach? Lots of clever thechniques possible.

The software of the F22 could attemt something that resembles TMA in submarine warfare or collect the bearing data of multiple jets several miles appart which combined could indeed create faily decent range information.

It would also be interesting how the software / HMI deals with ambiguty and how the reliability of data will be displayed to the pilot.

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The interesting question will be how much information the F-22 can feed back into the network without beeing deteced by the enemys passive sensors.

Not much in this moment: the Raptor has only a Link 16 receiver and an a 2 way intra flight data link. So, except other raptors, no other plane could receive data from an F 22. In the near future though, the Raptor will receive a full Link 16 terminal (MIDS)

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