Forum: General F-22A Raptor forum

Hello all!

I am currently creating an add-on aircraft for MSFlight Simulator, and can't seem to figure out what some (or most) of the switches and dials in the "office" pertain to. I've got a fairly decent picture of the cockpit, but it's not quite focused enough to read the labling on the panels (perhaps for a reason).

If anyone might be able to help, or if this information is not to be released, please let me know. Any info would be appreciated, though I've got all the info I need on the "glass" displays, just not the little switches and knobs and such.

Also if you would like to see the picture I've got of the cockpit, let me know.

Again if any of this information is considered 'sensitive', please let me know, as I'm just an ignorant civilian, after all. Rolling Eyes

Thanks for your time!

-Spider

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Spidermann, I would guess (again just a guess. I am a viper maintainer and am not quite sure on all f-22A subject matter) that most of the cockpit controls are considered need to know or are at some level of classification since this aircraft is so new and considering it's extremely advanced capabilities. Most of the time though, it's not the actual panels that are classified rather it's the functions they perform. That is about as far as I'm willing to go without getting myself in trouble. The Air Force is very sensitive when it comes to security issues. Any thing else anyone can add would help. Again I am not real sure about the F-22A, but that is my 2 cents.

Raptor_DCTR, thanks for the reply. I sorta thought I would get something to that effect, but I had to try. My reasoning was that if the picture I found was released, and the Technology Demonstrator simulator is being shown to the general public, then what the knobs are labled should be [Link pending approval] to ask about. I thought, like you said, that the functions rather than the panel themselves would be classified. But, then again, what do I know, really.

Anyone else that can chime in on this subject, as Raptor_DCTR stated, would be helpful. I don't want to get anyone in hot water, so anything is appreciated.

Thanks again.

-Spider

If pics have been released and there is a simulater then that leads me to believe that the panels themselves are not classified but rather their specific functions. I hope someday to get on the F-22A program. They are taking some viper specs right now and I have been trying but no luck so far. It is probably one of the most desired assignments in the AF right now.

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It is probably one of the most desired assignments in the AF right now.

I'll bet it is. Must be cool to just plug in a "laptop" and do a diagnostic like you would for a new Buick. Smile

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Because maintainers were included early on in the design process for the F/A-22, they quickly established a strong foothold. To improve turnaround, the maintainers insisted on extensive self-diagnostics for the various subsystems.

This means virtually every piece of hardware in the aircraft either does its own health checks or reports when it has failed. It is reasoned that if the airplane knows so much about itself, then that capability can be leveraged to help both the maintainer and the pilot.

Source: Christine Sullivan - 325th Fighter Wing Public Affairs

above from a post at [url][Link pending approval][/url]

By the way here's the picture as referenced and the source document:

Thanks once more.

-Spider

I am suprised that they have released an image of that much of the cockpit... (now which one of these buttons builds the nuke bomb out of household materials? Laughing

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When they released the A-10c cockpit, they took out a couple of things before they photographed it....

[quote]...they took out a couple of things before they photographed [Link pending approval]]

I agree. If you look closely, there are a couple of 'blanks' in pretty prime real estate. I assume one would be for nuke consent like on the F-16 panel, but it may be for some EW thing that they don't want released. I don't know, and I don't want to, either. Smile

Most of the critical systems are run from the MFD's, and like one test pilot said in an interview I read; "....every switch had to earn it's way into the [Link pending approval]"

Some of the stuff I can figure out by deductive reasoning, like the gear panel, misc. systems next to it (landing lights, strobe, nav lights, tail hook), aux com (on the right near the bottom with the digital display), and oxygen systems below that. The rest I'm not so sure about, maybe volume control, fuel systems and the like. I've tried cross checking against the F-16c, F-15 (I've got a really detailed panel schematic for the -15 if anyone needs it.) and various commercial jets (like the A-380) but nothing seems to 'fit' in comparison. It's likely that all the switch panels are custom designed and manufactured specifically for the Raptor's systems.

[Link pending approval] biggie, I just wanted to make it as accurate as I could as to adequately represent the awesome F-22A. Great plane, great nationwide teamwork, and great design and performance. IMHO, my tax dollars have been spent on the coolest thing since GPS. [insert "waste, waste" comments here. Smile

My hat goes off to all the talented equipment between the headphones, as well!! The plane might be high tech, but it can't fly itself.

Let me know if anything else comes to mind.

-Spider

Sorry to post twice in a [Link pending approval] but I found some more info.

Here's a company that makes some of the simulators and training equipment:
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And this is the Data and Video Recorder (DMVR) at the lowest right in the picture:
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Have fun!

-Spider

It isn't the displays and gizmos.... it is what the displays and gizmos project when they are "on"... Laughing

Spidermann wrote:

IMHO, my tax dollars have been spent on the coolest thing since GPS.
-Spider

I agree, GPS is one of the coolest and must useful things to go (sorry to steal the phrase from the discovery channel) tactical to practical...

I thought L-3/Link built the FMT for the Raptor? That's definately a Link dome viz. Saw one first-hand at Tucson last year.

(from USM Inc.)

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I thought L-3/Link built the FMT for the Raptor? That's definately a Link dome viz.

You're absolutely correct. L-3/Link does put together three trainers for the F-22A; the FMT, the weapons trainer, and the egress trainer. However, USM actually makes the equipment. [Link pending approval] the plastic and metal housing. Here's two pictures of what I'm talking about:

Then it gets shiped to L-3 for the software and stuff (I think thats how it goes, I could be wrong though).

That make sense?

-Spider

Yeah....thanks. Shoulda remembered that. When Link was bought by CAE (a Canadian company) in the late 80's, it's manufacturing capabilities were gutted and all the fab folks were "released". Those were indeed dark days in Binghamton and it hasn't been the same there since. Except for one or two WST rework projects, all subsequent new hardware build-up has been outsourced, to the best of my knowledge.

Pick up a copy of this book: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/185780 ... oding=UTF8

It has some detailed pics of the cockpit and you can make out some of the wording for the various switches etc.

Sweet! Thanks!

I'll definately check it out, and when I can I'll post a schematic for everybody to take a look at (it might take some time, so be patient Very Happy

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Later!

-Spider

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