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The 03 GAO report had some flaws to report on the raptor; 1 vertical stab flutter, at high AoA. 2 Electronic instability of the software. 3 Overheating between the engines. Does anyone know if these have been resolved,or
just flight restricted, untill a fix is found?

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03?? as in 2003??

Enthusiast Joined: Nov 02, 2005 Posts: 72 Status: Offline

yes thats the yr of the list of complaints.

Capt-soap wrote:

The 03 gao report had some flaws to report on the raptor; 1 vertical stab flutter, at high aoa. 2 Electronic instability of the software. 3 Overheating between the engines. Does anyone know if these have been resolved,or
just flight restricted,till a fix is found ???

Man, these are old issues. Long been corrected.

Enthusiast Joined: Nov 02, 2005 Posts: 72 Status: Offline

Can anyone address how the issues were resolved?

Capt-soap wrote:

Can anyone address how the issues were resolved?

Details on the fixes to resolve the issues cannot be discussed.

I just hope the Government Printing Office was smart enough to not sell copies of this report outside the circle of those who had a need to know! In the past this was a problem when the Russian "Air Attache'" (in Washington D.C.) would go by and purchase a copies of GOA reports.

Adrian

Enthusiast Joined: Oct 16, 2006 Posts: 80 Status: Offline

The GAO prints what it prints if the AF does not like it, tough.
To date there has never been any secret info released by the GAO.
It might print items that the DoD would wish it did not print (cost overuns, $700 hammers, gold plated ashtrays, boats that the navy bought but can't find).

Since the GAO is non partisan, i tend to give it more credibility than a the AF which has a dog in the fight.
Sorry.

BTW don't blame us dems for what the GAO puts out.
Perhaps you should ask why the GAO which answers to a Republican controlled congress is so anti F-22.

Maybe, just maybe because it's doing it's job.
To watch and report on how and on what the government spends the money that it is given.

just my 2 cents

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Details on the fixes to resolve the issues cannot be discussed.

Says who?

It now appears that some subject matters involving weapons, are to complex for the GAO to accurately evaluate the weapon systems being developed now.
They act as though designing equipment that is making a quantum improvement in performance over previous equipment, as though the new system were part of a 'mature' technology.

Adrian

Has the GAO ever liked a Military Program? It would be interesting to go back and see what they thought of the F-16 during its development and early production!!! Wink

1) In the past, the GAO folks were bean counters without the technical acumen to understand the system they were investigating...their purpose was to simply determine if the government was spending it's money wisely. Can't say that is still true as I haven't dealt with them in the last 3 years or so.

2) GAO guys typically have clearances...and are legally bound by the same rules we are. Some GAO reports are in fact classified.

3) As for saying they have no dog in the fight, that's bull. When GAO is assigned a case, it is because whoever sent them had an agenda, and it was always a negative one (nobody ever investigates a program they support)

4) Republicans aren't against the F-22, they just have other things they would rather buy with the money, as opposed to the Dems who would buy both and raise our taxes. (I know, simplistic rhetoric but deep down there is precedent behind it).

Funny story...I was attending Defense Systems Management College (Acquisition program manager's "grad school") and was privy to a lecture by a GAO auditor. All he talked about was DoD waste and his success finding it. Since many of the programs he worked were run by folks in his audience (who knew the truth) there was obvious distaste in our mouths. Funny part was he seemed to ahve no clue who his audience was as he continued to belitle the DoD and its programs. It's a wonder he wasn't seriously hurt...

GAO = not my favorite group of people. Confused

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The GAO: "Never met a weapon system we liked." I swear half of them must moonlight at POGO.

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