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It looks familiar if you wipe off the undercarriage and rotate it, doesn't it Question

It's a Block 50 (341 SQ,111 FW).Picture taken by Phillippe Noret during TLP at Florennes (Belgium)on March 9,2004.

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nballian wrote:

I didn't know HAF F16 had red stripes on their fins.

Only 341 SQ's F-16s have these stripes

Cash wrote:

Pictures of the Helios B737, being escorted by the 2 F-16's

Those are not real pictures! Those F-16s are from the 341 sqn.The two F-16s that escorted the Helios 737 they was from the 347 sqn!

Looks like it has smokewinders on it... not much help in shooting down a rogue airline...

If you take a look at picture no 2 of the 737, think you can see that the wheel well door on the fuselage is open. There's this very dark spot where gear-up-situation would have cleaned up that area. And the position of the flaps, they look like a 5-10 deg position to me.

But the F-16's aren't fake, you can se the nationality symbol on the tail.
I thought the pictures was for real first...

Twisted people making pictures like this and passing it as the real stuff Crying or Very sad

Quote:

Fake Helios pictures identified

Flight International said yesterday it had identified the pictures as high-quality fakes as they show a Helios 737-800, rather than the -300 that crashed. Efforts to disguise this have been made by doctoring the registration to that of the crashed aircraft.

The other key giveaways that the aircraft is an -800 rather than a -300, are the twin overwing exits, its fuselage length and trailing edge configuration.

Source: cyprus-mail.com

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I wonder what could cause such a rapid decompression. Isn't it far more natural - in case of a pressure loss- that de temperature and the pressure inside the airplane gradually decent, allowing the crew and passengers to punt on their oxygen masks and extra clothing, if available?

Why on earth could that plane have depressurised that fast?

BTW, do the black boxes have given any answers yet?

Falconer

Hello friends,

Here is the link for Flight International declaring the pictures are fake:

I saw some mention of CO2 (Carbon Monoxide). It has no smell or colour and kills silently. A slow fire at the point the ventilated air is heated could be a source - perhaps.

There was a similar problem with the LOX converter in the F-104 in the 60s. There were two instances where German F-104's were intercepted by Norwegian F-5 and the German pilots sat dead in the cockpit. It's autopilot then flew them to northern Norway before they ran out of fuel. Apparently the 60 day LOX converter check was instigated after that.

i believe that all the mystery of crach of plane is found in the German pilot.
Something curious happens there.The German pilot has still not found. Other one curious incident. Question

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Falconner wrote:

I wonder what could cause such a rapid decompression. Isn't it far more natural - in case of a pressure loss- that de temperature and the pressure inside the airplane gradually decent, allowing the crew and passengers to punt on their oxygen masks and extra clothing, if available?
Falconer

When depressurization occurs, cabin/cockpit windows usually frost over. Since the intercepts could see inside the airliner, the windows weren't frosted over. CO2 would seem more likely.

Getting CO in a passenger airliner isn't easy. The air for pressurization comes from compressor bleed and some from outside air. Compressor bleed really has no hot section combustion byproducts accessible and the only way to get CO is to have engine oil or hydraulic fluid cooking in the bleed ducts. The fumes from that would make the pax violently nauseous or headachy long before the CO content would get high enough to incapacitate. You would also have so much smoke they would probably declare an emergency and land.

The only other possible source of CO would be soemting burning in a cargo pit or a hazardous chemical or gas release in the pit. The pits are not hermetically sealed from the pax compartment but airflow out the main outlfow valves would have a tendency to purge the a/c. The early Boeing products don't recirculate much of the air.

Enthusiast Joined: Jan 26, 2004 Posts: 29 Status: Offline

Will the O2 masks drop for issues other than loss of pressure?

Yes - if the crew in the cockpit manually activate them - but no other reason than that.

lamoey wrote:

I saw some mention of CO2 (Carbon Monoxide). It has no smell or colour and kills silently. A slow fire at the point the ventilated air is heated could be a source - perhaps.

The air is not heated in the sense you are thinking. It's just air that's tapped off of one of the compressor stages. It's the compression of the air that heats it and that is mixed with cooler air as needed to get the right temp. Some of the cooler air comes from an ACM (air cycle machine) and that's just a kind of air conditioner that doesn't use freon or any liquid to cool the air.

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