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VigilanteAgumon
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 Posted: Jul 29, 2006 - 04:36 PM
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| I got this idea after watching the Iron Eagle movies. What if we had a U.S. pilot in a Viper going up against an Israeli in an upgraded Kfir C.10 (instead of the older version used in the movie and as an aggressor)? |
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Posted: Jul 29, 2006 - 05:12 PM
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In case not everyone is aware of the C.10 variant:
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Developed by IAI for the export market, the Kfir C.10, also known as Kfir 2000, is the latest version of the Kfir family. It features a new wrap-around glass cockpit, an in-flight refuelling probe, and a larger nose containing a highly optimized set of advanced avionics. The modernized HOTAS cockpit includes an improved HUD, two Multifunction Color Displays, an Up-front Control Panel, and support for a Helmet Mounted Display System. The Elta EL/M-2032 Multimode Airborne Fire Control Radar enhances the aircraft's performance in both air-to-air and air-to-ground missions, and gives the Kfir C.10 the capability to carry the RAFAEL Derby active radar-homing missile, as well as the latest versions of the RAFAEL Python IR-homing missile series. As of 2006, the only nation known to have acquired Kfir C.10s is Ecuador, where the variant is referred to as Kfir CE.
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Python 4 under the right wing and Python 3 under the left wing.
For the Spanish speakers among us:
http://www.defesanet.com.br/noticia/kfirc10/foto1.jpg |
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HunterKiller
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Posted: Jul 29, 2006 - 05:59 PM
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If Viper pilot is driving later block machine, I think Kfir has little chance. It is basically an old 1950s airframe with modern fancy gizmos. Same league as German F-4F ICE, Romanian Mig-21 Lancer and Indian Mig-21 Bison.
Kfir is actually secong generation airframe (like F-4, Mig-21, F-104). Falcon is fouth generation airframe.
It is economy version on modern 4 gen jet, nothing more.
Kfirs were used in USA by Top Gun (they named F-21 Lion) to simulate Mig-23. It is all to be said about its maneuverability.....
Israel used Kfirs in 80s and later only for AG missions... |
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VigilanteAgumon
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Posted: Aug 01, 2006 - 07:46 PM
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| Many upgraded planes have been compared to the F-16 in capability. Two examples being the F-5E Tiger IV and the MiG-21-93. I believe the Kfir C.10 is no different. |
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Posted: Aug 02, 2006 - 12:30 AM
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| HK, what would be 3rd generation for you? |
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Where is that switch in the cockpit? If that is not OPSEC of course
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Posted: Aug 02, 2006 - 05:49 PM
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Elite 1K
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hansundfranz
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Posted: Aug 02, 2006 - 06:08 PM
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HK included the F4 in 2nd generation, thats why I asked whats 3rd generation for him.
Anway, sepration in generations when talking about quality is pretty much useless |
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