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kori
PostPosted: Jun 01, 2010 - 04:16 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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I'm not sure where to put this, so I figured general was a pretty straight shot into not being trolled/flamed etc. So heres my question:

What are the military's (AF mainly) policies on tatoos?
Is it different for pilots then any other officer/enlisted?
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Do a google search for AFI 36-2903. Everything is in there
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What you seek is in AIR FORCE INSTRUCTION 36-2903 "DRESS AND PERSONAL APPEARANCE OF AIR FORCE PERSONNEL"

Specifically Table 2.5. Body/Physical Appearance Modification Standards. (below)

REF: http://www.af.mil/shared/media/epubs/afi36-2903.pdf

AFI 36-2903 wrote:

Tattoos/brands anywhere on the body that are obscene or advocate sexual, racial, ethnic, or religious discrimination are prohibited in and out of uniform. Tattoos/brands that are prejudicial to good order and discipline or that are of a nature that tends to bring discredit upon the Air Force are prohibited in and out of uniform. Tattoos that are commonly associated with gang affiliations are prohibited both in and out of uniform. Unauthorized (content): Members who receive tattoos/brands not meeting the standards after the implementation of this policy are required to initiate tattoos/brands removal at their own expense upon notification by their Commander. Initial Accessions must disclose any tattoos and must complete removal of inappropriate tattoos prior to being accepted in the Air Force. Members failing to remove or alter unauthorized tattoos in a timely manner may be subject to disciplinary action or involuntary separation. Failure to observe these mandatory provisions and prohibitions by active duty Air Force members, USAFR members on active duty or inactive duty for training and ANG members in Federal service is a violation of Article 92, Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). (See notes 2, 3, 4 and 5).

Excessive tattoos/brands will not be exposed or visible (includes visible through the uniform) while in uniform. Excessive is defined as any tattoo/brands that exceed 1/4 of the exposed body part and those above the collarbone and readily visible when wearing an open collar uniform. Members should not be allowed to display excessive tattoos that would detract from an appropriate professional image while in uniform. Commanders should use these guidelines in determining appropriate military image and acceptability of tattoos displayed by members in uniform. Air Force members with tattoos not meeting an acceptable military image should be required to (a) maintain complete coverage of the tattoos using current uniform items (e.g. long-sleeved shirt/blouse, pants/slacks, dark hosiery, PT running suit, etc.) or (b) remove tattoo(s). Depending on the circumstances, commanders may seek Air Force medical support for voluntary tattoo removal. PTDY is not authorized in this situation and is at member’s expense. Members failing to remove, cover, or alter excessive tattoos or who choose not to comply with acceptable military standards may be subject to disciplinary action or involuntary separation. Failure to observe these mandatory provisions and prohibitions by active duty Air Force members, USAFR members on active duty or inactive duty for training and ANG members in Federal service is a violation of Article 92, Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). (See notes 2, 4, 5 and 6).

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2. Installation or higher commanders may impose more restrictive standards for tattoos and body ornaments, on or off duty, in those locations where Air Force-wide standards may not be adequate to address cultural sensitivities (e.g., overseas) or mission requirements (e.g.; basic training environments).
4. There may be situations where the commander can restrict the wear of non-visible body ornaments. Those situations would include any body ornamentation that interferes with the performance of the member’s military duties. The factors to be evaluated in making this determination include, but are not limited to: impairs the safe and effective operation of weapons, military equipment or machinery; poses a health or safety hazard to the wearer or others; or interferes with the proper wear of special or protective clothing or equipment (EXAMPLE: helmets, flack jackets, flight suits, camouflaged uniforms, gas masks, wet suits and crash rescue equipment.)
5. Tattoo/branding policy went into effect 15 March 1998.
6. Members who receive tattoos/brands not meeting the standards after the implementation of this policy are required to initiate tattoos/brands removal at their own expense upon notification by their Commander. Members not complying with these requirements will be subject to disciplinary action for failure to comply with Air Force Standards and may be involuntarily separated.


There are no distinctions for officer/enlisted. It should be under 'Air Force Life' (Edit not MIL Life)

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Cheers Raptor... Must have been typing at the same time?

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Yeah, this one could definitely be moved to the Air Force Life forum. Unfortunately, I have controls for that forum, but not this forum. Hopefully one of the other mods, (i.e., Stefaan or Lieven) will see this one and put it in the proper place.

Good question though, as the tattoo policy has seemingly run amok in the past couple of years that I've been in. Folks (both male and female) seem to have more and more visible tattoos these days.

The policy either isn't as strictly enforced as it once was, or folks know just the right amount to get in the right places without getting into trouble.

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Well maybe one of these would be considered acceptable? (Depending on placement!)

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No HTS pod on that viper? I guess pet shots only Smile
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Things were going nicely until we got to the Pratt & Worthless tat. j/k Razz

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As a Viper Doctor who bit the bullet and is spending time in Lackland as an MTI, I can tell you that tattoos are more lenient than they were a couple of months ago. Pretty much now we are documenting them as they come in and get approval from the Group CC on a go/no go. As long as they aren't above the collar bone or obscene, most people are getting a pass.

Two months ago it was getting pretty crazy. Almost any visible ink meant a free plane ticket home, instead one ex-trainee's mother had enough and contacted her local Congressman and News crew. That made it pretty interesting down here. Bang Head

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I think if I were down there wearing the hat, I'd much rather be one of the Academic TIs. Seems like less chances for dealing with shenanigans like that. Then again, I know that MTIs have to start off pushing a flight...

Yeah, the tats in the AF are starting to get ridiculous, but I think it's because we're at a point where we need people. You'd think that the Recruiters and/or MEPS would save you guys the trouble, and check these folks out before they even process through. That way, folks don't have to waste the AF's time and money to make it all the way to Lackland, just to be turned away.

And I know what everyone's thinking, "Yeah. Show me all of the ways that the AF could've saved money, or resources, or made a different decision that made more sense."

But, I think that's an argument for another time and forum...

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See i planned on getting something such as the first (the f-16)
and saying
'Blood in, Blood out, Brothers till the end'
or something along the lines of that.

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