F-2 SuperKai

viperrulez · by **viperrulez** » 12 Jun 2005, 17:33

F-2 Super Kai

kilo111 · by **kilo111** » 12 Jun 2005, 20:11

Very incredible fighter, do you know when the prototype is going to fly?

agilefalcon16 · by **agilefalcon16** » 13 Jun 2005, 12:34

Now that should have been the fighter to replace the F-16C/D, instead of the F-35.

Habu · by **Habu** » 13 Jun 2005, 19:29

kilo111 wrote:Very incredible fighter, do you know when the prototype is going to fly?

It's not. Just a proposal.

KarimAbdoun · by **KarimAbdoun** » 14 Jun 2005, 00:53

Looks like an ordinary F-16C CFT Falcon, but with way more payload on the air-to-air section!
As for a replaxement instead of the F-35, well, not really.

kilo111 · by **kilo111** » 14 Jun 2005, 11:13

Oh, i though they were working to built the prototype.

agilefalcon16 · by **agilefalcon16** » 14 Jun 2005, 17:23

Here's some news that I came across while researching on this aircraft.

milavia wrote:Japan looking for F-4 Replacement
31 May 2005

The Japanese Air Self-Defense Force (JASDF) has recently launched the F-X fighter programme to find a replacement for the F-4 Phantom II. The JASDF is now formulating its requirements for a new fifth generation fighter. Likely contenders include the F-15E (upgraded), F/A-18E/F Super Hornet,Eurofighter, F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, F-2 Super Kai and possibly an export version of the F/A-22A Raptor. The F-2 Super Kai will an enhanced version of the F-2 based on the F-16 Block 50/52 proposed by Lockheed Martin and Mitsubishi to meet the requirement.

At least 40 F-X aircraft are needed to replace two JASDF F-4 interceptor squadrons in 2011, with deliveries starting in 2008-2009. At this stage all options will be considered."

Source: http://www.milavia.net/home/newsarchive.htm

Habu · by **Habu** » 14 Jun 2005, 18:21

Ok, so they cut F-2 production, but still want more...

falconfixer860261 · by **falconfixer860261** » 14 Jun 2005, 19:57

Isn't that "Super Koi"?

TenguNoHi · by **TenguNoHi** » 15 Jun 2005, 00:05

I have always had a fond admiration of Japanese Airforce, even during WW2. I find the F-2 an exceptionally beautiful fighter, come one, the paint scheme? gorgious!

I would like to see this go somewhere. Japan needs a good 5th generation a/c. Unfortunatly the people dont have enough interest to fund any military spending there.

-Aaron

DeepSpace · by **DeepSpace** » 15 Jun 2005, 02:48

The F-2 is way too expansive. With a price tag of around 160 (!) Million US Dollar (Yes, that's about 4 times the price of a Blk. 50/52 F-16), no wonder Japan doesn't mass produce these beauties.

Habu · by **Habu** » 15 Jun 2005, 18:14

Whatever they get, I just hope it doesn't have those gawd awful CFTs on it.

agilefalcon16 · by **agilefalcon16** » 16 Jun 2005, 12:54

DeepSpace wrote:The F-2 is way too expansive. With a price tag of around 160 (!) Million US Dollar (Yes, that's about 4 times the price of a Blk. 50/52 F-16), no wonder Japan doesn't mass produce these beauties.

160 MILLION :shock:

, that's like the price of a Raptor!!! What made the F-2 get SO expensive?

TenguNoHi · by **TenguNoHi** » 16 Jun 2005, 16:41

Same stuff that made the F-22 expensive I hear. Japan had no interest in purchasing enough to drive the cost down. Also the synthetic materials needed to build the longer wings drove the cost up quite a bit too. Maintanance issues also limited the production.

I like both ideas for an F-2 Super Kai AND an Export F-22. Did not realise LM would be willing to do that but if they do Japan's a pretty rewarding country to send it too. Look how greatful they were when we sent F-15s and F-4s.

-Aaron

Gamera · by **Gamera** » 02 Jul 2005, 09:39

Don't know if anyone here already noticed this before:

A Japanese personal site at
http://homepage2.nifty.com/yoyotoru/e905z.html has a photo taken at Misawa AB, Aomori Prefecture, Japan, on 2004.09.05, of a JASDF F-2 Junior, serial number 43-8500.