Forum: F-22A Raptor

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I suggest you read this article by former Marine Major Scott Ritter to learn about the direction this country is headed.

He has a political agenda to push, and books to sell, and you sound like a shill for him. As far as spewing "technobabble", please edumacate us armchair losers with your superior knowlege of things which you have no firsthand knowlege.

Yawn......

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Another thing to note about these stealth aircraft. We have Viper pilots on this site who've fought Raptors. They'll tell you its boring as all hell because they don't do anything and then they die. They'll do this time after time and never get anywhere. No one ever said stealth made you invisible, but I'll be damned if it doesn't make you hard to track.

This guy sounds like a kid that just graduated ROTC with a bachelors of engineering Rolling Eyes

What a shoe clerk Rolling Eyes

-Aaron

Elite 1K Joined: Aug 19, 2004 - 09:19 AM Posts: 1092

TenguNoHi wrote:

This guy sounds like a kid that just graduated ROTC with a bachelors of engineering Rolling Eyes

What a shoe clerk Rolling Eyes

-Aaron

Hey... I resemble that remark. Well, not the ROTC and shoe clerk part. And I don't usually get carded anymore. Surprised

Udet wrote:

Stealth?? What a load of Sh!t....

Don't feed the trolls...

Udet wrote:

I am an engineer (materials) and I feel sorry for all you armchair warriors who talk all this techno babble you know nothing about. Classified information about airplanes is not revealed to the public and all your assertions about the stealth working this or that way are only guesses. The F-22 is wonderful plane that costs way too much money. I suggest you read this article by former Marine Major Scott Ritter to learn about the direction this country is headed. Stealth is a myth. Low observables is the proper term(like the military now calls them) Hmmm, they are no longer invisible as originally sold to us. Any airborne radar platform can see so called "stealth" aircraft. So can obsolete, 1950's radar platforms, apparently. Razz

Read something other than the latest flight sim manual. Maybe you'll learn something about the world we live in. I wonder how many of you can find Iraq on a map. Rolling Eyes

http://www.sdcitybeat.com/article.php?id=4281

Udet, how does a pedophile, Saddam ex-payee/"employee", terrorist-supporting, and Nostradamus wanna-be, whose credibility is so fractured that the only job he can find and obtain is writing anti-Western 'everything' pieces for Aljazeera, remotely have any bearing within this particular topic? Your worship of Mr. Scott Ritter may be admirable to those of your like and mode of thinking, but in truth, that which you have failed to grasp, is that his rhetoric is suspect, likewise, about as suspect as your repeated and unsupported rhetoric.

How anyone in their collective right-mind would insert such a character as Mr. Scott Ritter into a discussion on the Raptor is beyond me. WTF

Elite 1K Joined: May 26, 2005 - 08:39 PM Posts: 1496

Udet wrote:

I feel sorry for all you armchair warriors who talk all this techno babble you know nothing about. Classified information about airplanes is not revealed to the public

Feel sorry for America who has a group of leaders who are not doing a decent job of leading the country.
As far as information released, there is a lot of information released. The conservatives release information trying to sell the product and the liberals release information trying to defeat the product. To someone collecting information, it all valid information. The details not released are things like how the manufacturing is done or how to determine the RCS on some new material.
To many on this website the terms used are not techno-babble.

Udet wrote:

The F-22 is wonderful plane that costs way too much money.

True but, no one has come up with a way to deveople brand new technology that doesn't cost real money. I wonder how much the cost of the F-22 would go down "IF" the technology used by the F-35 was split with that program. Much of stealth technology developed for the F-22 has found its way to other programs. Don't believe all the anti-F-22 hype!
If America was willing to have a 1:1 kill ratio, we could use developed aircraft using proven technology.
The liberals of whom cry the most about the price of the F-22 were the same people who did everything to defeat the program. Inconsistent funds, stretching or delaying the program as much as possible then, hollering the most at its cost. They are part of the problem not part of the solution!!

Udet wrote:

So can obsolete, 1950's radar platforms

If the stealth aircraft makes the mistake of getting to close, it will die. They are low observable not invisible. The lower frequencies have been somewhat more effective under certain conditions than some other frequencies.
The F-117 was shot down because it flew into a target area at the same time of day, same course, for four nights and, became predictible. The Serbian AD moved a mobile radar into place and the F-117 flew almost directly overhead, the rest is history. Notice, after the F-117 was shot down no other F-117's were shot down. Nor were any B-2 Lancers shot down and they dropped a bunch of Mk.-84 bombs.

The US Navy has been dealing with stealth vehicles for a long time -submarines!

Adrian

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