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Flight sims - Most realistic flight model



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PostPosted: Feb 24, 2005 - 06:32 PM Reply with quote Back to top
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Which sim has a more realistic flight model? Falcon 4.0 or Microsoft Flight Sim? Also... Has anyone played the more recent sim "Wings of Vietnam" yet? Saw it on the shelf 2 days ago. Anyone know the realism on it's flight model?

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Falcon 4.0 is the most realistic there is!!!! sometimes too real. But I love it. Crazy Pilot
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Flight Sim 2004, the most realistic. Even the time, I have a buddy who once was piloting a 747 for 8 hours at 2 am, he slept and completed the flight the next morning to land the thing!
Is it true that Flight Sim 2004 has military planes in it?

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Military planes can be added with thitd party kits.

I think both sims have great models. The planes included with MS FS all fly differently and feel correct. Add-ons typically don't have the fidelity and often use the model of another aircraft that's "close".

As for F4.0, I find I amazing as well. The systems are a cluged combination of blocks 40 and 50 (LANTIRN and HARM) but are reasonably close.

Differences? F4.0 is intended to simulate the aircraft...MS FS is designed to simulate the act of flying. Love both. Wish I had time to fly them more. Both are like real airplanes...take time off and your proficiency suffers greatly.

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where the hell can you get falcon 4.0?? I have looked everywhere!
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Falcon 4.0 is no longer sold in the stores....the company Microprose has been bought over by Hasbro, and has since ceased to produce the game anymore. Its really a pity, because right before they folded, there were talks about another sim being in the works, Falcon V. But all that was ever done was a few screenshots of the new game's title...nothing more.

Now, Falcon 4.0 is being kept alive by a dedicated community over at Frugalsworld Forums. I belong to a virtual squadron called the 87th Straydogs, flying Falcon 4.0, and imho this is THE sim to be. The new patches have make the once buggy F4.0 one of the most realistic sims depicting the F-16.

Trailmix, to answer your queston as to where to get this sim, the only viable option now is Ebay. I've seen some auctions pop up from time to time...but you gotta be quick, because they get snapped up as quickly as they appear.

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A couple other really good ones are IL-2 Sturmovik and its follow-on, Pacific Fighters.

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KarimAbdoun wrote:
Flight Sim 2004, the most realistic. Even the time, I have a buddy who once was piloting a 747 for 8 hours at 2 am, he slept and completed the flight the next morning to land the thing!
Is it true that Flight Sim 2004 has military planes in it?


Yes, you can add on military planes on to your FS 2004 game. You just download them from the internet, there are literally hundreds to choose from. Some are designed better than others. I've have added on an F-16 to mine and it's great. Here's a link that shows alot of aircraft that you can download to your Flight Simulator 2004 PC game. However, you have to be a member to download any of them.

http://www.surclaro.com/downloads_c24_100_dateD.html


There is a new Falcon 4.0 PC game coming out this summer. It is called Falcon 4.0: Allied Force. It is made by the same people who made the original Falcon 4.0. Here's a link with more info.


http://www.gamespot.com/pc/sim/falcon4alliedforce/index.html
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I want F4.0! Do you think there will be any on E-Bay?
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Sure, I just did a search on ebay, and these are the <a href="http://search.ebay.com/Falcon-4-0_W0QQsofocusZbsQQsatitleZFalconQ204.0QQsacatZ-1QQcatrefZC5QQfromZR7QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQfclZ2QQfrppZ50" target=_blank" rel="nofollow">results</a>.

Just keep in mind though that most of these have been used.
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yeah I lost out on a bid yesterday for F4.0 because I had to go catch a damn airplane that came in almost an hour early :-S

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yeah I lost out on a bid yesterday for F4.0 because I had to go catch a damn airplane that came in almost an hour early :-S


Tsk, tsk. Using a Government computer and network to bid on E-Bay..... Cool
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VPRGUY wrote:
yeah I lost out on a bid yesterday for F4.0 because I had to go catch a damn airplane that came in almost an hour early :-S


Tsk, tsk. Using a Government computer and network to bid on E-Bay..... Cool


Ha!!!! Almost, but I was actually on my home computer at the time; having to run back to my room to get something (honest!!!) has fringe benefits Smile

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BTW, here's a press release about a new addon for Falcon 4.0

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Introducing "Falcon 4.0: Allied Force"

Just over five years ago, a military flight simulation took the PC games industry by storm. Falcon 4.0 was a game like no other and led to a following like no other. Years of development produced an F-16 simulator with legendary features such as a truly dynamic campaign engine, unrivalled depth of avionics and remarkable levels of artificial intelligence.

Quite simply, Falcon 4.0 was the most important game of its type in a generation because it made gameplay intoxicating.

This summer, Lead Pursuit LLC, in association Graphsim Entertainment Inc., brings the spirit of Falcon 4.0 back to life with a totally updated simulator for 2005. Falcon 4.0: Allied Force pushes the boundaries once again for today's demanding gaming enthusiast.

Features include:
  • Revamped graphics engine
  • Reworked multiplayer engine
  • Highly advanced artificial intelligence
  • Reworked dynamic campaign engine
  • Brand new theater of operations
  • New high resolution models and cockpits
  • Highly detailed terrain and airbases
  • Intuitive User Interface
Kurt Giesselman, CEO of Lead Pursuit LLC, said: "We're tremendously proud to bring Falcon 4.0 bang up-to-date for 2005. All of us at Lead Pursuit are among the most enthusiastic supporters of the Falcon brand and honor its extraordinary heritage and reputation. Falcon 4.0: Allied Force sets new standards in fidelity, realism and sheer player enjoyment. The legend really has returned."

Falcon 4.0: Allied Force in more detail

The graphics engine supports real-time terrain lighting, dynamically-shaded 3D volumetric clouds and alpha-blended scattered clouds. Fog is also implemented and combined with new high resolution textures on models and the terrain, the visuals are tremendously improved. Highly detailed and clickable cockpits for three different F-16 aircraft are included: the Block 50/52, 40/42 and MLU variants.

The multiplayer engine features a new, problem-free connection method with support for a centralized, server-system style of play for internet and Local Area Network (LAN) games. Performance and reliability have been greatly improved for both custom made missions and campaign flights.

Perhaps the most important feature of Falcon 4.0: Allied Force is the Dynamic Campaign Engine (DCE). This is the war simulator where any event happening in any part of the theater of combat affects the war's direction throughout the theater. How you perform in your mission directly, and proportionately, determines what happens elsewhere. This is true for the tens of thousands of computer controlled entities in the game. It means that the player really feels part of a living war environment, part of something that is evolving around them in real time.

Some of the greatest changes have been to improve the interaction of computer controlled aircraft and the hundreds of ground entities in Falcon 4.0: Allied Force. Thousands of hours of work has led to remarkable improvements in artificial intelligence. During missions, computer-controlled aircraft will perform with precision. The role of the Forward Air Controller (FAC) is now implemented, allowing the player to co-operate with other flight aircraft when carrying out ground attacks. Brand new Air Traffic Control intelligently manages the flights in and out of bases.

The F-16's electronic systems simulated in Falcon 4.0: Allied Force, including the avionics, are the most realistic for the home personal computer. Numerous modes and sub-modes in air-to-air and air-to-ground radar are accurately implemented to immerse the player in the feel of operating a modern combat aircraft. Identify and lock up targets just as they do in the real jet: feel the gut-wrenching adrenaline flow when the defensive electronic systems indicate a surface to air missile launch against your aircraft.

The new theater of operations is the Balkans. There are three time periods stretching from the mid-1990s to 2010, featuring appropriate aircraft, squadrons and units. Each theater period has three campaigns, making nine in total for the Balkans. Falcon 4.0: Allied Force also features a heavily revised Korean theater and associated campaigns.

Our most important feature is stability. At Lead Pursuit, it's the cornerstone of everything we do. Any new development or enhancement of the product has been extensively tested through classic play and with new dedicated, custom-made software running the equivalent of many thousands of hours of the simulation. Lead Pursuit is proud of the level of stability achieved in Falcon 4.0: Allied Force.

Further information at www.lead-pursuit.com

Falcon 4.0: Allied Force is scheduled for release on June 28th 2005.
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Yeah that's the game I mentioned earlier, and it's going to be SO COOL!!! Very Happy I'm going to try and get it the day it comes out, if it's available in my area. One question though, is the Falcon 4.0 series the most realistic Viper simulator games out there? Just curious, because games like Ace Combat 5 just don't seem realistic enough.


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