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 Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 05:32 PM
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I'm getting a little confused here. Was Northrop-Grumman a competitor on ATA before GD/McDD was selected for the A-12?  Or are we talking about Northrop's competitor to Lockheed's Have Blue Hopeless Diamond? |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 05:57 PM
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| We were talking about Northrop's competitor for Have Blue, briefly...and I think that's what Gums was replying to. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 06:02 PM
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| I've seen drawings and a fuzzy RCS pole model of Northrop's Have Blue competitor in one publication, but it's been a long time. I have never seen anything on any other ATA competitors, that would be interesting. |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 06:46 PM
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| I wonder what can be gained by keeping the pics classified nowadays??!!?? |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 07:31 PM
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Your job.  |
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Posted: Feb 04, 2004 - 09:08 PM
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| eh true... |
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 03:46 AM
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No! habu!!!!
I am talking about the A-12 entry by Northrop.
That's the one I wanna see.
Have Blue and other black programs at Groom Lake are neat. But I don't think any A-12 prototypes ever got to flying.
BTW, one of the guys in my "C-flight" pic (A-7 topic?) flew Shamu at Groom Lake. Was a Northrop plane with a low probability of intercept radar system. Who knows what else he flew? One of these days he'll be able to talk about it.
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 03:54 AM
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| Shamu - my first impression was "an inverted bathtub with wings..." |
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 04:13 AM
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Gotcha Gums...
I'd like to see pics of all kinds of things, HALSOL, Helios, Amber, GNAT-750, and some more detail on Tacit Blue. Maybe someday.... |
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 05:29 AM
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Hell, Tacitblue is on display at Wright Patt AFM. They let you get closer to it then alot of stuff, of course the big draw now is the B-2 they put in there.
The A-12 never made it to prototypes. The closest thing they had to a working model was a 1/5 scale mockup but when they kept needing more and more money then they said they would initially it died. |
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 02:40 PM
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Lawman, there is a full scale A-12 mockup in Ft Worth. I've seen it, touched it, photographed it.
http://www.habu2.net/a12/a_fsm.htm |
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 02:41 PM
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| There are several wind tunnel models too, I would guess they are closer to 1:10 scale though. Seen, touched, snapped them too. |
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Posted: Feb 05, 2004 - 06:09 PM
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I'm sure the A-12 has been mistaken for the 'Aurora' many times  |
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Posted: Feb 06, 2004 - 07:05 AM
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| Well since it has never flown I kinda doubt it. Maybe in pictures but only by the uninformed. Plus I'm pretty sure the (Navy) A-12 was a subsonic design. |
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