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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 11:37 AM
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X44 is a tailess aircraft fully maneuver using Thrust Vectoring.
It is good for stealth more payload more maneuverable as i heard.
What happened to it?
The reason for cancelling are not clear
Is it just stopped for public and continued as black project?
And this is my first post. The reason joining this forum is asking this question. I have lot to learn in Fighters.
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 01:02 PM
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| Was it "cancelled", or did it just complete it's intended demonstration purpose? |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 04:53 PM
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| The F-22 was the official replacement for the F-117, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless there's some F-22 derivative being kept under wraps. However, I also have trouble seeing how such a program could be hidden so well in the internet/camera-phone age. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 05:12 PM
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1st503rdsgt wrote:
The F-22 was the official replacement for the F-117, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless there's some F-22 derivative being kept under wraps.
Are you sure? The F-117 didn't have much in the way of sensors, so the F-22 is probably at least as capable in the ground attack role. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 05:29 PM
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count_to_10 wrote:
Are you sure? The F-117 didn't have much in the way of sensors, so the F-22 is probably at least as capable in the ground attack role.
I think its more likely that B-2 has *actually* picked up the slack of decomissioning the -117 fleet. With the -35 force steadily increasing, I think the burden will fall the Lighting's shoulders in the not too distant future. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 05:50 PM
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count_to_10 wrote:
1st503rdsgt wrote:
The F-22 was the official replacement for the F-117, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense unless there's some F-22 derivative being kept under wraps.
Are you sure? The F-117 didn't have much in the way of sensors, so the F-22 is probably at least as capable in the ground attack role.
No, I'm not sure. I'm just making an observation that the intended roles for these aircraft are quite different, and that one could see the USAF trying to keep a bleeding-edge penetration strike bomber quiet.
Just some harmless, idle speculation. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 06:21 PM
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| The F-117 had as many sensors as one needs in a light attack plane, even a TFR that retracted in stealth mode. It was a little more complex than people probably give it credit. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 10:34 PM
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madrat wrote:
The F-117 had as many sensors as one needs in a light attack plane, even a TFR that retracted in stealth mode. It was a little more complex than people probably give it credit.
I didn't think it was capable of delivering LGBs. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 11:04 PM
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| That's all it delivered. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 11:38 PM
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count_to_10 wrote:
madrat wrote:
The F-117 had as many sensors as one needs in a light attack plane, even a TFR that retracted in stealth mode. It was a little more complex than people probably give it credit.
I didn't think it was capable of delivering LGBs.
That's the only thing they ever dropped. No JADAMs back then. |
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 11:48 PM
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Posted: Oct 08, 2012 - 11:59 PM
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1st503rdsgt wrote:
count_to_10 wrote:
madrat wrote:
The F-117 had as many sensors as one needs in a light attack plane, even a TFR that retracted in stealth mode. It was a little more complex than people probably give it credit.
I didn't think it was capable of delivering LGBs.
 That's the only thing they ever dropped. No JADAMs back then.
I thought they couldn't fit a laser designator on it. |
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Posted: Oct 09, 2012 - 12:08 AM
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There are two laser designators on the F-117. One in the upper nose and one in the belly.
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2 ... l_f117.htm
A view from another angle reveals what's inside the FLIR port. The rotating dome houses the infrared detector used to acquire targets at night from long range. Augmenting the FLIR is the downward-looking infrared sensor located in the similar port beside the front undercarriage bay. The DLIR stays peering at the target during the attack phase. There is also a laser designator for precision guidance of laser-guided missiles.
Note the red outline of the port recess.
Barely visible opening on the fuselage underside is the DLIR port (downward-looking infrared). |
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Posted: Oct 09, 2012 - 12:10 AM
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count_to_10 wrote:
1st503rdsgt wrote:
count_to_10 wrote:
madrat wrote:
The F-117 had as many sensors as one needs in a light attack plane, even a TFR that retracted in stealth mode. It was a little more complex than people probably give it credit.
I didn't think it was capable of delivering LGBs.
 That's the only thing they ever dropped. No JADAMs back then.
I thought they couldn't fit a laser designator on it.
I'm listening if ya gotta source. There used to be a rumor that the USAF had another stealth aircraft to do all the designating (some old PM issue I read when I was a kid). |
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Posted: Oct 09, 2012 - 12:12 AM
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| Never mind. I must have had it confused with something else. For some reason, I was under the impression that it could only drop GPS guided or unguided bombs. |
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