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edpop
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 08:26 AM
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| Are the 2.75" Mighty Mouse or the 5.00" Zuni rockets used anymore on the F-16 or any aircraft? I know they were used a lot during Vietnam but was wondering if they are still around now and if so which aircraft use them. Also, I understand Napalm is not used anymore by the U.S. either. |
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Posted: May 25, 2013 - 5:55 AM
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 05:08 PM
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| The USMC still uses Zuni and is doing LGZ (Laser Guided Zuni) trials now. |
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Boman
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 05:11 PM
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Napalm is not the politically correct name anymore - Firebombs however are. International conventions prevent the use of firebombs on anything but hard targets.
But as Spudman says, the Zuni's are mostly a USMC weapon. You can however still see Vipers carrying LAU-68's staggerd on TER. But that's about it of the weapons you mention. |
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mgelevli
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 07:48 PM
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| Turkish "Cirit" (=Javelin) laser guided 2,75" rockets have been tested on Cobra gunships and have been found very efficient for lightly armored targets, that need not to be hit by an Hellfire or TOW. But I do not have any information if these can be used by Vipers or any other fixed wing aircraft. |
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Boman
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Posted: Aug 23, 2012 - 09:01 PM
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Posted: Aug 24, 2012 - 03:24 AM
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2.75 inch rockets, guided and unguided are used by helicopters of the US Army and US Marines on their helicopters:
- AH-64A/D Apache
-AH-60L/M Direct Action Blackhawks
- AH-6M Little Birds
-OH-58D Kiowa Warrior
- AH-1W/Z Cobra/Viper
- UH-1N/Y Iroquois/Venom (Huey)
The Army uses the DAGR as it's guided rocket which is launched from standard Hellfire missile launches. The USMC uses something a little bit different called the APKWS, which I believe uses a modified rocket pod. Both weapons systems take the standard unguided Zuni rocket and add a semi-active laser seeker and control fins. I imagine these weapons will make their way to CAS aircraft like the A-10 and AV-8B in addition to UAVs. |
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Posted: Aug 24, 2012 - 05:51 PM
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edpop:
I'm pretty sure the LAST 'napalm' in the US inventory was expended on 'H.E. hill' on the Gila Bend North Tac range in 1976 from an F-100D.
(I was there. ) |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 08:27 PM
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| USAF vipers shoot 2.75 in rockets all the time. HE, WP, and Illum. Mostly FAC-A stuff |
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Posted: Aug 25, 2012 - 09:31 PM
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Boman wrote:
Napalm is not the politically correct name anymore - Firebombs however are. International conventions prevent the use of firebombs on anything but hard targets.
That's not technically correct. The only restrictions covering incendiaries is that they may not be used against enemy forces in concentrations of civilians. We currently use the Mk. 77 firebomb, which uses a kerosene-based agent in place of actual napalm.
Edit: see here. |
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Unwin
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Posted: Aug 26, 2012 - 08:37 AM
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| I've never seen an A-10 go out hunting (Afghanistan) without 2.75s |
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Posted: Sep 04, 2012 - 10:15 AM
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mgelevli wrote:
Turkish "Cirit" (=Javelin) laser guided 2,75" rockets have been tested on Cobra gunships and have been found very efficient for lightly armored targets, that need not to be hit by an Hellfire or TOW. But I do not have any information if these can be used by Vipers or any other fixed wing aircraft.
Cirit's interface is MIL-STD-1760 compliant, so it can be fitted to any manned / unmanned air or land platform supporting such I/O. |
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