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PostPosted: Jan 06, 2005 - 11:21 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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To keep things organized (so you don't reply to old posts), I'll start updating this post as things change. The latest post is at the bottom.
----------------------Jan 06, 2005 - 11:21 AM----------------------
It's been quite a while (at least a year?) since my last video. Heck, that's easy enough to find out... *checks creation date of last video*... Yeah. 11/2/2003. I think it's time for a new video.

I've done a few in-between jobs in Premiere since then, so I've learned several new things. So if there was anything missing in my last videos (see http://www.falconsys.net/f16 - the .wmv ones are the best, and 2ndSE is a work-in-progress that never got finished, so it's better than the 2nd, but slightly incomplete), it will look a whole lot better in this one.

This time... instead of getting frustrated trying to locate clips for this, trying to find a decent song (that's not too hard, really), figuring out what to name it, etc... I'll just ask the forum. Wink

Figured this isn't really off-topic... it is a strictly F-16-related video I'm working on, so it should go in this forum... but it's right there in the gray area so I'm not sure.

I need...
  • The name of a good song to use (it's a music video). Preferrably something... "fast". Because F-16s are not opera. Laughing
  • Video sources. I've got DSL, so don't worry about giving me links to 2gb videos. I'll download it in an hour.
  • Well, a pilot would be nice = I've got to know if it looks right. Wink
  • A title, something involving the "4th". I'm very skeptical about the title I came up with for the 3rd, "third in formation", since I don't know ANYTHING about flying - especially not formations! So I don't know if I made a major no-no on that last one. Better if I leave it to the pros.
So what do you think?
----------------------Jan 19, 2005 - 08:41 AM----------------------
The video is in the works right now... having all kinds of fun with it. As with my other videos, showing the previews to people just starts a wave of "Ooh! Aah!" all over the place... that's what makes this so fun!

The song is Thousand Foor Krutch - Rawkfist. It had been done in a video before, so I'm trying to make this one bigger and better than the first one. How couldn't I? Laughing

The previews are here:
http://www.falconsys.net/f16/f16-4th-pre-256kbps.wmv <-- 256kbps, for dialup users (download it)
http://public.caservers.net/f16-4th-pre-1mbps.wmv <-- 1mbps, for broadband users (thanks to neoca.net for hosting this)
----------------------Jan 19, 2005 - 06:09 PM----------------------
Changed link for broadband one... for those of you getting 404 errors, give it another try!

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Metallica - Don't Tread on Me, Alice Cooper - Poison, The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter, Paint it Black, Van Halen - Dreams, Sammy Hagar - I can't drive 55 That's about all I can think of this early in the morning. Good luck!

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Guns and Roses-Welcome to the Jungle; Metallica-Fuel; MEGADEATH-SYMPHONY OF DESTRUCTION Twisted Evil
those are the 3 biggest ones I'd like to see, specially symphony hahha, if I come up with more I'll post em!

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Wow yeah, that Symphony of Destruction sounds great. At least, the title does. Very Happy

Gotta look for the lyrics because I can't understand a word they say, but I think I hear "my viper"?...
Quote:
(Chorus)
Just like the Pied Piper
Led rats through the streets
We dance like marionettes,
Swaying to the Symphony
Of Destruction

Meh... close enough.
Length: 4 minutes?? Wow... that's a little much to ask!
I dunno... that title is REALLY nice. Nice title for a (music) video, but unfortunately it's already taken by a song... Razz

Alice Cooper - Poison
Somehow, I can't seem to put a video together in my head for this one. Usually I can visualize what kind of video clip I'd like for whatever part of the song I'm listening to. One that comes all together as I listen to it is a perfect song for a video... this one just doesn't have it... =\
But it is definately a great song Very Happy
Length: 4:28... Ouch. Gotta keep in mind that TATU's "Not Gonna Get Us" (#3) flick was too long, and was cut off (at a good part in the middle)... and I think that was only a 3:30-song... too much video to make, it starts dragging on...

The Rolling Stones - Gimme Shelter
Hmm... sadly, I can't see this one in a video either. Just doesn't go together right. Seems too much like an "ambience" song. No "foreground/background" seperation, it's like it's all one continuous sound... way too hard to work with...
Length: 4:37... WOW. Way too long too... =\

The Rolling Stones - Paint It Black
Hey, I remember hearing this one on a record I was playing around with a few years ago. Razz
As for a music video to that... I might need to find a remix of it. Seems to have great potential (better than the others), but it just seems too awkward... =\
Length: 3:51... that's a little better, but still way longer than my other videos...

Van Halen - Dreams
Nice lyrics... Smile
Quote:
reach for the sky
baby, just spread your wings

We'll get higher and higher
straight up we'll climb
we'll get higher and higher
leave it all behind

Maybe it's just not the music I'm used to or something... but I keep drawing blanks. Not sure about this one. Has more potential than even the last one, and I'm still checking out the other song candidates ("acquiring" them as I type this), so we'll see Wink
Length: 4:54... I guess not! Surprised

Sammy Hagar - I Can't Drive 55
Who could forget this song? Simply a classic. That one will definately be in my "Probaby-Will-Do" stack. Sounds great, and with a little more thought power than usual, I can actually put some concepts, at least, to this music. Nice.
Length: 4:10... a big stretch!

Metallica - Don't Tread on Me
Man, this one is being a pain in the butt to "acquire"... but I think I finally got it. That's why it came last in this list... took that long to find!
From the first 44 seconds (all I can hear at the moment), it seems... I'm not sure. Maybe. Not really good, but not bad.
Length: 4:00 - more "doable" than most, it seems... but still twice as long as I'd hoped a song would be...

Guns and Roses - Welcome to the Jungle
Hmm... same comment as Gimme Shelter... that, and it's...
Length: 4:33 - just way too long.

Metallica - Fuel
Interesting. Definately got the "uumph" a video like this needs... Very Happy
Is there a music video for this one I can mix with the F-16 footage - like I did with "Faint" (#2)? That might help move this one into the "Will-Do" stack. Sounds good enough from what I can hear (the first minute)... Very Happy
Length: 4:25


Any more suggestions? Thanks for those, too, by the way! Very Happy

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I'll try to think of more, but I wanted to give you the lyrics to "Don't Tread on Me" in case you haven't heard them yet. The lyrics are the main reason I thought of this song, but I like the music, too!

Quote:

Don't Tread On Me

Liberty or death, what we so proudly hail
once you provoke her, rattling of her tail
never begins it, never, but once engaged...
never surrenders, showing the fangs of rage

don't tread on me

so be it
threaten no more
to secure peace is to prepare for war
so be it
settle the score
touch me again for the words that you'll hear evermore...

don't tread on me

love it or leave it, she with the deadly bite
quick is the blue tongue, forked as lighting strike
shining with brightness, always on surveillance
the eyes, they never close, emblem of vigilance

don't tread on me

so be it
threaten no more
to secure peace is to prepare for war
so be it
settle the score
touch me again for the words that you'll hear evermore...

don't tread on me

so be it
threaten no more
to secure peace is to prepare for war

liberty or death, what we so proudly hail
once you provoke her, rattling on her tail

so be it
threaten no more
to secure peace is to prepare for war
so be it
settle the score
touch me again for the words that you'll hear evermore...

don't tread on me


Like I said, I'll try to think of more later! Have fun and good luck!!!

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Just don't use VanHalen, man 'cause it was already used by the band itself as an aircraft video. In the original video Blue Angels are flying on SkyHawks there - seems good!
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Iron Maiden - Aces High [is about spitfires :s]
Drowning pool - Let the bodies hit the floor
Metallica - Fuel [already posted i see]
Mötorhead - Time To Play The Game
Manowar - fight until we die
Megadeth - The World Needs a Hero

I think these are all pretty good songs for a music video,
they have pretty good lyrics, aren't slow, and somehow express power in my opinion Smile

As for some video's, I advice this site, as I don't know much video sites:
http://users.pandora.be/01a/homepage.htm

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Hey Falcon4 your videos are great! Could you tell me what program you use to make them? Besides if you're looking for inspiration http://videos.f16techs.com has been updated with very nice sukhoi videos (thanks to DerLoos).
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Premiere... 100% Adobe Premiere 6.5. Premiere "Pro" won't run on any computer I have (requires some far-out-there crap like SSE2 that none of my CPUs have), and After Effects is just too complicated. The most notable feature of Premiere is the live A/V sampling as you move the position bar across the timeline. I can hear exactly what frame I want to start a clip at.

Timmer: I'll check out those songs and post my response in a few minutes. Smile

By the way, are any of you guys pilots?
(Seriously... I'd like some input on this from one... Very Happy )

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Whitesnake - "Here I go again"

heard that on a RAF Gulf War tornado video made by an RAF sqd, awsome.....
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Thousand Foot Krutch- "Rawkfist" 2:40


THROW UP YA RAWK FIST IF YA FEELIN IT WHEN I DROP THIS!
Show em how we blow this spot
lets make it half the shocka with the body rock
till the party stops its time to take it up a notch
and keep it locked for all the headbangas in da parkin lot
here we go if ya ready or not
no time to talk cause we on the clock
bringin da OH! OH! to your block
let me show ya where we comin from
it dont stop from Melrose to New York
show me what ya got now

All I know is what it did take to make this,
all I am is what it will take to break this (Repeat)
light it up now, light it up now

Stop runnin me down
keep runnin around
Im fakin you out
would ya just make it watcha want it to be
if I could find out what youre all about
Im callin you out would you just set me free (x2 with first part twice)

All I know is what it did take to make this,
all I am is what it will take to break this (repeat)
light it up now, light it up now

THROW UP YA RAWK FIST IF YA FEELIN IT WHEN I DROP THIS
thats the sound when the rock hits
OH! never know I might let go! get ready get set
THROW UP YA RAWK FIST IF YA FEELIN IT WHEN I DROP THIS
thats the sound when the rock hits
OH! never know I might let go! get ready get set
thats the sound when the rock hits
thats the sound when the rock hits
thats the sound when the rock hits
JUMP! JUMP! MAKE THE SOUND WHEN THE ROCK HITS
THROW UP YA RAWKFIST IF YA FEELIN IT WHEN I DROP THIS

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I was going to put my incentive flight footage to Motley Crue's "Shout at the Devil. The begining of the song had this great drawn out drum beat to alternate short clips of all the preflight stuff until the song kicks in and goes right into the flight itself. I think it would have turned out cool, if I hadn't misplaced the tape. Oh well, i'm sure i'll have another shot at before I retire.

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Eagle wrote:
Thousand Foot Krutch- "Rawkfist" 2:40

That's the stuff. Cool

I might just start the video today with this song...

A 30-second clip from the song, for those that haven't heard it, and to keep the RIAA happy (not posting the whole song)... Razz
http://post.falconsys.net/Thousand_Foot ... rtial).wma

Any comments on this clip?


Actually, if I'm gonna make a clip for you all to hear of one song, I should probably make clips of all the other songs I've heard too. Laughing
http://post.falconsys.net/Alice_Cooper- ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/Guns_And_Rose ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/Megadeath-Sym ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/Metallica-Don ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/Metallica-Fuel_(partial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/Sammy_Hagar-I ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/The_Rolling_S ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/The_Rolling_S ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/Van_Halen-Dre ... rtial).wma
http://post.falconsys.net/Whitesnake-He ... rtial).wma

Aye... that was a lot more work than I thought it'd be... Confused

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Okay... I've decided to go with "Rawkfist". Totally kickass song. Very Happy

I should, however, have noted... "songs you did NOT hear in another video"... 'cuz that just makes it look like I'm ripping off someone else's video or something. Not cool...
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_forum_viewtopic-t-1705.html

I'll just go way above and beyond like I usually do. Smile

Stay tuned for a "teaser" preview in about an hour.




edit:
Geez, you guys are quiet tonight! Cut that out! Laughing

Anyway, got a long day tomorrow, so I've got to get some sleep. But I did throw together what should be the first 7 seconds of the video... in as high quality as you could ever expect from a video...
http://falconsys.net/f16/f16-4th-pre-1mbps.wmv

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Cool stuff ! Looking forward to this ! Keep 'em coming !
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