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it seems very like F-35, but with two engines.

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That looks suspiciously like an F-35. Check out the intake area.
I think we may be paying the price for the 1TB of data the commies supposedly stole from the JSF program.

southernphantom wrote:

That looks suspiciously like an F-35. Check out the intake area.
I think we may be paying the price for the 1TB of data the commies supposedly stole from the JSF program.

It IS an F-35, with two engines. I believe this is the Shenyang proposal for the J-2X program.

http://theaviationist.com/2012/06/22/l-15/

At that angle, I suspect it is a mock-up.

I would expect the PRC to fly indigenous F-22 and F-35 type aeroshells against their sensor development projects. Ditto for UCAVs. They can't field F135 caliber engines or accompanying signature reduction yet so they went with two known engines that have combined signature and performance attributes which are close enough to test. By placing some of these platforms on display, the PRC are simply letting the U.S. know China is not a patsy. Our secret sauce is majority internal and difficult if not impossible for PRC to access. It's a different game now as compared with the Cold War. Despite the recent leaks, our systems are more secure today than they were 25 years ago. If it was possible to readily replicate U.S. systems without direct information, which was costly to obtain, the Japanese would be there and they aren't. 0.02

Nice models . . . Now they have to actually build them, train pilots to fly them and ground forces to maintain them.

Ahhh, there's the rub.

A model wouldn't need a trailer, it's on its way from manufacturer to testing facility.
Remember a few days ago, X-47B was towed from west coast to east coast on a truck?

And sure, it is not L-15.

megasun wrote:

A model wouldn't need a trailer, it's on its way from manufacturer to testing facility.
Remember a few days ago, X-47B was towed from west coast to east coast on a truck?

And sure, it is not L-15.

That was without it's wings, as far as I can tell, and level.

UFO or UAV? Drone stirs driver excitement By JESSE YEATMAN June 15, 2012

http://www.somdnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/a ... iendlysomd

"Some Washington, D.C., area drivers thought a Navy drone was an alien spacecraft as the plane was transported through Western Maryland and around the Beltway to Patuxent River Naval Air Station this week....

...The 38-foot-long aircraft has a 62-foot wingspan (about half of that when folded for transport) and no tail, no cockpit, no engine exhaust and no afterburner....

...McKinney did acknowledge that the plane’s wings were removed for transport, leaving it with a flying-saucer shape.

“It does look kind of mysterious,” he said....

...Carrier suitability testing of the aircraft will begin later this summer at Pax River.

The drone can carry up to 4,500 pounds of bombs. It is programmed to fly automatically without a pilot or controller."
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Cropped smaller version of BIG [OVERSIZE LOAD] Picture: http://www.navair.navy.mil/img/uploads/ ... 2_edit.jpg

count_to_10 wrote:

megasun wrote:

A model wouldn't need a trailer, it's on its way from manufacturer to testing facility.
Remember a few days ago, X-47B was towed from west coast to east coast on a truck?

And sure, it is not L-15.

That was without it's wings, as far as I can tell, and level.

Yes, a mock-up is much easier to disassemble, no need an oversized transport fleet with escort

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count_to_10 wrote:

megasun wrote:

A model wouldn't need a trailer, it's on its way from manufacturer to testing facility.
Remember a few days ago, X-47B was towed from west coast to east coast on a truck?

And sure, it is not L-15.

That was without it's wings, as far as I can tell, and level.

Transporting it rotated on its longitudinal axis would make it narrower, and possibly easier to maneuver around obstacles.... does look weird though. Or maybe they wrecked it. Looks like the vertical stabilizer(s) are off as well.

I could be wrong, but I would worry that transporting a real aircraft tilted on it's side like that would damage something.

These bits are missing from the transported (to another dimension?) X-47B: "......The 38-foot-long aircraft has a 62-foot wingspan (about half of that when folded for transport) and no tail, no cockpit, no engine exhaust and no afterburner....
...McKinney did acknowledge that the plane’s wings were removed for transport...

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