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 Posted: Jan 18, 2013 - 01:59 AM
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Hi guys, I'm new here. Can you help me identify these fighters?...
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Posted: Jan 18, 2013 - 02:05 AM
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Posted: Jan 18, 2013 - 03:06 AM
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| Definitely tomcats. I don't really know for sure, but I think the projection under the nose is a sensor that is only on the -D model. |
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Posted: Jan 18, 2013 - 08:16 AM
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| Those are both A-models and the gadget under the nose is a long-range TV camera for VID without a radar lock. |
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snypa777
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Posted: Jan 19, 2013 - 07:37 PM
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Link this is something I have always found confusing. On earlier models like the A, the piece of kit under the now was an infrared sensor. AN/ALR-23.
Later models had a Camera fitted for as you say, VID. the very last upgrades were a combined Infrared sensor and camera mount slaved to the radar.
ALL tomcat models seem to have at least "something" under their noses.
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Posted: Jan 19, 2013 - 09:34 PM
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| Interesting. What distinguishes them as 'A's? |
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Posted: Jan 19, 2013 - 10:42 PM
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count_to_10 wrote:
Interesting. What distinguishes them as 'A's?
Mainly the fact that the pic is a screen capture from Top Gun. No B or D models in service at that time. |
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Posted: Jan 20, 2013 - 10:22 PM
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Lightndattic wrote:
count_to_10 wrote:
Interesting. What distinguishes them as 'A's?
Mainly the fact that the pic is a screen capture from Top Gun. No B or D models in service at that time.
I am ashamed to admit that I watched Top Gun the other day. Aside from the great aerial footage of F-14s, the rest of the movie is trash. Lately I've been watching JAG on Belgian TV, maybe something is wrong with me...
"Goose, watch out for the canopy..."
Like, what was he supposed to do, push it out of the way?
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LinkF16SimDude
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Posted: Jan 22, 2013 - 08:24 AM
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"Goose, watch out for the canopy..."
Like, what was he supposed to do, push it out of the way?
Last time I watched it I could've sworn I heard Goose shout "THANK YOU CAPTAIN OBVIOUS!!" as he went up the pole. But don't quote me. 
Here ya go Snypa. Could be IR, could be TCS. Cruddy rez. Tough call.
(image from M.A.T.S. Chin Pod page) |
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Posted: Jan 22, 2013 - 01:53 PM
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Posted: Jan 23, 2013 - 12:18 AM
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JoeSambor wrote:
I am ashamed to admit that I watched Top Gun the other day. Aside from the great aerial footage of F-14s, the rest of the movie is trash. Lately I've been watching JAG on Belgian TV, maybe something is wrong with me...
"Goose, watch out for the canopy..."
Like, what was he supposed to do, push it out of the way?
Best Regards,
Well, apparently the flat-spin eject problem had come up before, and the ejecting crews had seen the canopy sticking around above them longer than it should have, so they waited extra time before actually ejecting. The idea would be watch the canopy until it moved off to a safe distance.
I still have no idea anyone would know that was a still from Top Gun, though. I've seen the movie several times and I can't even place it. |
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Posted: Jan 23, 2013 - 08:02 AM
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count_to_10 wrote:
I still have no idea anyone would know that was a still from Top Gun, though. I've seen the movie several times and I can't even place it.
Sunset behind the jets. Might be the return trip after the first engagement with Cougar and Merlin (they got back to the boat at twilight). If not, "The Final Countdown" maybe? Either way...definitely no later than a B-model.
This site has what looks like a mirror image of the first pic.
(http://www.crazy4cinema.com/Review/FilmsT/stills/topgun5.jpg) |
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snypa777
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Posted: Jan 24, 2013 - 04:07 AM
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Cheers link, looks like all Tomcats had something under their noses ie all models. The F-14 was the very first aircraft I ever painted sio has a special place for me:) It "looks" exactly how you would imagine a long range naval interceptor SHOULD look 
Great pic btw, I think the lead ship is too close for missiles and may have to switch to guns, |
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Posted: Jan 24, 2013 - 04:20 AM
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| Did they skip from B to D? |
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haavarla
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Posted: Jan 25, 2013 - 09:39 AM
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count_to_10 wrote:
JoeSambor wrote:
I am ashamed to admit that I watched Top Gun the other day. Aside from the great aerial footage of F-14s, the rest of the movie is trash. Lately I've been watching JAG on Belgian TV, maybe something is wrong with me...
"Goose, watch out for the canopy..."
Like, what was he supposed to do, push it out of the way?
Best Regards,
Well, apparently the flat-spin eject problem had come up before, and the ejecting crews had seen the canopy sticking around above them longer than it should have, so they waited extra time before actually ejecting. The idea would be watch the canopy until it moved off to a safe distance.
I still have no idea anyone would know that was a still from Top Gun, though. I've seen the movie several times and I can't even place it.
I thought the eject secvence was automated.
First the bolts on the Canopy detonate and then a few sec delays before the rockets in the seat starts and off you go?
If not, then a good number of pilots would be dead. Kovochur in his Mig-29 comes to mind.. The whole point is that the ejection must happend fast. |
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