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Vipernice
PostPosted: May 21, 2012 - 05:49 AM Reply with quote Back to top
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Hi, hoping to get some clarifications on this.

Wingspan
F-16.net A/B: 32 feet 9 1/2 inches
F-16.net C/D: 31 feet 0 inches
AF.mil C/D: 32 feet, 8 inches

Length
F-16.net A/B: 49 feet 3 1/2 inches
F-16.net C/D: 49 feet 4 inches
AF.mil C/D: 49 feet, 5 inches

Weights
F-16.net A/B: 16,285 pounds empty
F-16.net C/D: 18,238 pounds empty
AF.mil C/D: 19,700 pounds without fuel


http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article3.html
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_versions_article9.html
http://www.af.mil/information/factsheet ... asp?id=103

Right off the bat the wingspan info on f-16.net for C/D got to be wrong? And in all cases would length be with or without pitot tube? Any difference between single and twin-seater? F-16A being lighter that I know but there's a big difference on the C's.

Are we perhaps talking manufacturer basic empty vs USAF operational empty or? Thanks for input Very Happy
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Right from the vendor: http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/produc ... tions.html
Wingspan: 32.8 ft = 32 feet 9.6 inches (the diagram appears to have AMRAAMs)
Length: 49.3 ft = 49 feet 3.6 inches (includes the pitot tube)

Wingspan data always depends on whether you are talking with wingtip missiles or without. 31 feet is correct for no wingtip missiles. AIM-9s bump it out a little and AIM-120s a little more.

Length is close enough... 1.5 inches in difference is nothing.

Empty weight is as variable as the number of different versions. Some have reinforced internal spars, some do not, and tons of differences in internal avionics exist.
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Thanks uncleslashy, that link seems helpful in sorting out what is what.

I notice on Lockheed's page their empty weight and MTOW is higher than listed on the AF.mil page. That leads me to believe LM spec'd their newer (export) version with a heavier landing gear. I'm just going to ignore the f-16.net info lol. It might be right for something but not very relevant today.

How about weight difference between C and D models?
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Vipernice wrote:
I notice on Lockheed's page their empty weight and MTOW is higher than listed on the AF.mil page. That leads me to believe LM spec'd their newer (export) version with a heavier landing gear. I'm just going to ignore the f-16.net info lol. It might be right for something but not very relevant today.

How about weight difference between C and D models?


Empty weight varies between Blks and engine type.

Is quote for Blk 30 or 52+? Both are C model, but weigh different; follow?

GE F110 weigh more than PW F100, a Blk 50 weighs more than a Blk 52 and basic structure of a Blk 50/52 is heavier than a Blk 25. A Blk 40 may weigh more than a Blk 52 due to the engine's weight...

Weight can also change with 'optional' equipment for users; onboard jammer, chute, avionics etc.

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