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Newbie Joined: Aug 26, 2006 Posts: 9 Status: Offline

I've seen extra doing the redbull race, and im impress with the menuverbility.

I just wonder how its manuver compare to F16 at its best manuver altitude?

Can F16 pull 10Gs like the extra? from most site that i've visited it said it can goes up to 9Gs?

If you put laser tag on both aircraft and let them dogfight......lol......what would happen?

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They shoot each other head on in every path. The extra has much smaller turn radius and much higher turn rate, Of course tihs is because of its way lower speed,

Of course this all does not matter at all. A WW1 prop place could do the same. Good luck shooting an F16 down with 2 30 cals.

And impressive payload, too,

Elite Joined: May 26, 2005 Posts: 1093

Boom and zoom baby. I don't think it'd be a contest.

F-16's FLCS limits it to 9g, ham handed pilots can defeat that limiter temporarily. But you wouldn't need to, an F-16 could bleed an Extra 300 out of energy easily. An Extra can pull 10gs, true, but in doing so it loses energy (it slows down). An F-16 in full burner can pull 9gs until it runs out of fuel.

Veteran Joined: Mar 10, 2006 Posts: 343 Status: Offline

that and the vertical climb capability and the use of supersonic speeds.... yeah, the F-16 would pretty much have to LET the Extra take a shot.

Elite Joined: Oct 21, 2005 Posts: 757 Status: Offline

Come on now. You know comparing these two type of aircraft is comparing apples to oranges.

Aircraft like the Extra, Oracle 2, etc are specialized planes built for one specific parameter, and they excel at it simply because they were specifically built to be. They are NOT, however, combat aircraft. They do not carry weapons (internal gun, gun pods, missiles, A2G munitions, etc) or hang anything off their wings other than maybe their fixed landing gear. Oh, did I mention what is their range, climb rate, ceiling, max speed, etc? What radar and avionic does it carry?

In other words, they have no combat capability.

If a an Extra guy ever wanted to play "laser tag" with an F-16, the Viper can dictate the engagement (because he has more useful performance available to him) much more so, can refuse to get into a turning engagement, and make it a bad day for the Extra.

Put the Extra VLow Alt, low visibility camo, and a pair of guns.... Well, I wouldn't want to be in the Viper's cockpit....

Active member Joined: Apr 22, 2004 Posts: 136

Yeah... what Scoripion said...

So...you want me to turn with an Extra??? Okay, I'll pick the altitude....How about 40 + thousand feet? Okay...How about I pick the speed? Lets say it has to be over 500 knots. No....??? Why would I fight the Extra on its terms??? The Extra can't even come close to fighting on the Viper's terms.

And to anyone who says "Well just try to fly very low and slow with a camo paint job on the extra...." I bet if you were sitting in the Extra you'd never even know where the Viper was, so I'd love to be in the Viper's cockpit.

Just don't expect me to try and compete in any Red Bull pylon racing. I'm afraid the Viper would knock down all the pylons and not be able to turn through any of them.

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