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Hi, [Link pending approval]

The HTS without it will be able to fire the HARM?
Entrusting it will give a detailed explanation.
Thank you very much.

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You can launch a HARM without HTS on the aircraft, if that's your question. Many aircraft can carry the HARM, and none have the HTS capability.

The HARM has a seeker head that can locate a transmitting radar dish, and it will try to fly "down the beam" to destroy the radar. The HARM missile itself just cannot range the distance to that target very well. The HTS can compute range pretty well, so it makes the HARM much more likely to hit the transmitting radar system (the HARM knows how far to fly now, and can fly "differently" for different ranges).
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You can launch a HARM without HTS on the aircraft, if that's your question. Many aircraft can carry the HARM, and none have the HTS capability.


I think that the wake of StannRodd's fraudulent postings, and the way that he played quite a few people on this forum, that you never know who is asking what. Just because something is on globalsecurity.net or whatever, or may be unclassified information, doesn't mean that it should be broadcast. I'm sure Kim Jong Il has internet access, and it honestly wouldn't surprise me to find out that this site gets hits from Cuba, N Korea, or Iran. Note that I rarely even acknowledge technical questions about this jet that I fly, and I hope that many of you, especially after reading how we at F-16.net all got played by European (no offense admin!) conspiracy theorists this week, will follow suit.
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STBYGAIN nailed it. If it's a subject that in real life you'd need a SECRET clearance or higher to even have access to, please think about the info you're offering. I respectfully suggest that if you can't make your point without revealing sensitive info, then don't post. Unclassified info is out there to be sure, but if we have inside knowledge of the issue let's just be careful about the level of detail we give. Wink Very Happy
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Good words!




( and do NOT mention ANYTHING about the high-G beverage cup holder!! )

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parrothead wrote:
STBYGAIN, 2


"2 and a 1/2 "


( Im not qualified on the F-16 in any manner so I only thought I was worth about 1/2 ) Laughing Laughing Laughing

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STBYGAIN, if it's on the Internet how exactly would you like that information not to be broadcasted?
Now my 2 cents; I've seen way too many questions asked on this forum that need not be asked in the first place. Why the hell does any civilian need to know the freq. range of the APG-68 or how the U.S. plans on targeting bunkers in North Korea, etc? We don't know each other so those people asking those kind of questions could be some kid in Nebraska or some intelligence guy in some random country. So if you know the answer to those questions don't answer, don't even try and talk around the answer, just let the thread die. That's just my opinion, I'm not running this site nor know who is or really care who is. Everyone else seems to voice their opinion just thought it was my turn Smile
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flanker hater: Good words all 'round and I agree with ya. But I believe STBYGAIN said it shouldn't be broadcast from this board and that we should tighten our COMMSEC here. I'd kill us to find out the enemy developed a tactical advantage using a key bit of info picked up on this board. The fact that HARM/HTS details are on the web at all is a security breach IMO.
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STBYGAIN, if it's on the Internet how exactly would you like that information not to be broadcasted?

By people not answering questions about it. My credit card information is on the internet, but I'm not posting it here!
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hi guys,

I have initiated a thread on the subject, "Posting of classified information?" here, a while back.

If I may suggest, the Admin might want to move the posts to the above-mentioned thread, where we can better expand on the subject.

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I'm not real sure here, I'm still new to the site; but it seems
that posting the B-61 TAC. Nuke photo, on page 7 of F-16
Technical Specs. might be a classified problem. I know any-
thing to do with the subject is taboo. But I was just a Knuckle-
dragger in the Reserves. Shrug
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redhead wrote:
I'm not real sure here, I'm still new to the site; but it seems that posting the B-61 TAC. Nuke photo, on page 7 of F-16 Technical Specs. might be a classified problem. I know any-thing to do with the subject is taboo. But I was just a Knuckle-dragger in the Reserves. Shrug


redhead, the link to the Web policies of the USAF and the Department of Defense is available in the last paragraph here. Members of the organisation is able to report any inappropriate use of internet from the link. If the mentioned picture is questionable, someone should really make a report.

As far as the original query posted on this thread; If HARM is able to fire without the HTS?, the official Raytheon web, implicitly spells out the answer. I believe the co. knows best, what kind of information can be made known to the public and the potential use of such information. In any case, I'm sure any individual equips with privileged information (obtained from his course of work. Though might not be classified but should not be shared in a public domain), should be aware of his liability to the nondisclosure act.

Let's be aware of where the line is and conduct our discussion within the limit.

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Being a markings guy, 3/4 of what passes for "technical" here goes straight over my head...but I do know enough to know that what passes through this site is NOTHING compared to the things I see at...like ACIG.org.

I see...or think I see...all kinds of terrifying stuff on the net. Most of it could be BS....I wouldn't know myself, but I rarely see things here that I'm pretty sure isn't available in volumes other places.

Personally, beyond what weapons can be carried by a particular airframe, I'm not sure what value discussing HOW the weapons perform has vs. the potential threat. Now, having said that, if somebody develops an effective defense of the HARM system by perusing F-16.net....then we have larger problems.

Type "HARM Target System" into Google and marvel. Allah Ahkbar!
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