Forum: F-35 Lightning II

wrightwing wrote:

maus92 wrote:

wrightwing wrote:

maus92 wrote:

Or as the Navy calls it, distributed electronic support/attack (to include surface assets, and future UAVs.) AFAIK, the F-35 does not have an internal active ECM capability, except using its AESA which is limited to certain frequency bands.

Which just happen to be the bands, that fire control radars are using. All you need to do is break the kill chain, once you're already in a situation where your presence is known.

There are quite a few missile systems whose radars (including fire control radars) operate outside of the X-band.

Which long range SAMs use anything other than X band, for fire control? The SA-19 uses Ka band, which is short ranged. The SA-15 uses X and K(again, short ranged). All fighters use X band fire control.

SA-20 / S-300?

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hcobb wrote:

Aussie Air sez that the next gen Radar on the PAK-FA sees 1 m^2 at 200 n miles.

So take the Global Security number of 0.0015m^2 and apply the radar formula that the range varies as the fourth root of the RCS and we get 39 n miles. Which is out of reach for the Sidewinder, but doable for recent AMRAAMs.

And one other thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Track-before-detect

Raise your hand if you think the Russians or Chinese will do TBD better than the Americans.

Ausair had some interesting articles with detailed statistics. Just wondering, are their statistics accepted as total bull or quite accurate Question

Total bull as they are derived by someone who has no inside information on the RAM coatings used and other classified technologies incorporated into the F-35. His "analyses" are just over-glorified examples of fear mongering. The statistics do hold some small merit I believe but Kopp twists the results deliberately as he is an F-22 fanb0i in order to make it seem as if the F-35 is garbage based off of groundless assumptions and other unrealistic figures thrown into the mix here and there.

@ tacf-x...... Dr Carlo Kopp is making the tactical mistake of doing a direct comparison of one F-35 aircraft to one F-22 aircraft. This is a really wrong way to look at the F-35 because the F-35 is design to work in a networked array with other F-35's and other information gathering platforms. This is like comparing a Cray Super Computer (F-22) to the entire World Wide Internet.

Forum: F-35 Lightning II

Let's compare USA 4th gen missiles vs. 5th gen jets