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by spazsinbad » 14 Sep 2011, 04:04

AFRL to Give Bunker-Busting a Boost by Graham Warwick at Sep/13/2011

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs/de ... d=blogDest

"Declaring that hard and deeply buried targets -- command bunkers and other facilities -- are becoming more numerous and difficult to defeat, the U.S. Air Force Research Laboratory is seeking ideas for technologies to be incorporated into a high-velocity penetrating weapon -- a 2,000lb munition that would fit inside an F-35 but have the bunker-busting capability of a 5,000lb weapon...." [More at the Jump]

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by geogen » 14 Sep 2011, 06:02

I must say that is one helluva requirement to fit. It sounds extremely expensive to develop and one can almost anticipate the delays, only to be cancelled in the end? I hope I'm wrong on that outcome, but IMHO, I'd say either cut down on the requirements for the internal bay launched weapon (at least for now - upgrade it with 2025 tech when the tech is available), or consider a wing-launched heavier class weapon of 2,500-3,000 lb ballpark and perhaps 13-14' length, etc. If it's a long-enough stand-off class, or if stealthy as a munition, then externally launched wouldn't be as detrimental to the tactical capability? Maybe just make sure future UCAV designs are better well designed around a 2,500lb, 14' class internal weap bay requirement?? Yet, for cheap and off-the-shelf as an interim solution... perhaps consider an extended stand-off capability derived from ATACMS? An Air launched ATACMS booster is already a proven system of course, so perhaps extend the war-head section to accomodate a 1,000lb next-gen explosive penetrator along w/ a modified motor for terminal boost? 300nm range? Available for delivery in 3-4 yrs? just my 2 cents.
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by SpudmanWP » 14 Sep 2011, 06:17

It's doable considering the advances in explosives and case construction brought on by the SDB.
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by southernphantom » 14 Sep 2011, 13:45

If we were going to assume this scales anything like linearly, using the ratio for the SDB, this would be a 600-700lb-class weapon. However, I highly doubt this is going to work especially well. We're better off using the Batmobile for this kind of thing.


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by elp » 15 Sep 2011, 02:52

That is interesting.

A very long time ago when they were trying to figure out the JSF program, there was a test done on making a 1000 pound class penetrator shape work. They did some sled tests of a shape.

The above 2000lb thing looks more aggressive.

Things like BLU-109 and SDB are there to properly manage cement buildings and non-deeply buried bunkers.

BLU-109 and SDB will certainly give the F-35 lots of battlefield interdiction capability.

One also has to consider the value of deep buried bunkers. The ones we took out in Iraq-2003 didn't have very much effect on the outcome of the war.
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by popcorn » 15 Sep 2011, 06:59

Reminds me of the French Durandal runway buster only without the parachute and a lot more sophisticated. Having this capability on the F-35 is a good response togrowing trend of opposing forces to go underground.



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