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This would be excellent news for Lockheed and the program, as the line shutdown draws nearer and nearer. It will be interesting to see if this interest is truly 100% price driven, or if some of it is driven by the performance of the Block 60 over Libya in the past few months. Seems that the Rafale is having a really hard time sealing the deal in the UAE....
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Another huge setback for the RAFALE...
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HaveVoid wrote:
http://defensenews.com/story.php?i=7022074&c=MID&s=AIR

This would be excellent news for Lockheed and the program, as the line shutdown draws nearer and nearer. It will be interesting to see if this interest is truly 100% price driven, or if some of it is driven by the performance of the Block 60 over Libya in the past few months. Seems that the Rafale is having a really hard time sealing the deal in the UAE....



Line shutdown draws nearer and nearer?? The US government is to blame..Taiwan is begging for 66 Vipers since years and also Iraq wanted to have some fighters.
They said NO..Thousands of highly qualified assembly line workers may lose their jobs soon.
BTW ,Dassault can survive on 11 fighters a year for such a long time so why Lockheed can't do the same?
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Also means it is very likely India will go for the Eurofighter in their MRCA selection ...
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duplex wrote:
HaveVoid wrote:
http://defensenews.com/story.php?i=7022074&c=MID&s=AIR

This would be excellent news for Lockheed and the program, as the line shutdown draws nearer and nearer. It will be interesting to see if this interest is truly 100% price driven, or if some of it is driven by the performance of the Block 60 over Libya in the past few months. Seems that the Rafale is having a really hard time sealing the deal in the UAE....



Line shutdown draws nearer and nearer?? The US government is to blame..Taiwan is begging for 66 Vipers since years and also Iraq wanted to have some fighters.
They said NO..Thousands of highly qualified assembly line workers may lose their jobs soon.
BTW ,Dassault can survive on 11 fighters a year for such a long time so why Lockheed can't do the same?


I would imagine it has something to do with the fact that Dassault has smaller/fewer production facilities, thus 11/yr is closer to full rate for Dassault than Lockheed. I could be wrong, just speculation.

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duplex wrote:
The US government is to blame..Taiwan is begging for 66 Vipers since years and also Iraq wanted to have some fighters.
They said NO..
Actually the Iraqis took the $$$ they originally intended for the Vipers and put it toward civilian relief programs/projects.

Taiwan? One word...CHINA. Some administrations are more concerned than others about making nice with the ChiComms than helping a regional ally defend itself from the Big Dog on the local block. Something about China's booming economy and them holding a good chunk of our national debt. But what do I know? Wink

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I wonder if the UAE wouldn't mind having their latest batch of F-16Es, if approved, built in Turkey or perhaps somewhere else seeing how the Lockheed Martin plant is shifting towards F-35 production.


I have read from multiple sources that the Obama administration does not want to sell brand new Vipers to Taiwan and has rejected multiple requests. I think the US's position will change once Obama leaves office. For now, upgrading Taiwan's fleet of F-16AMs would be a good use of time. The aircraft are already at MLU standards right? What other upgrades could Taiwan be seeking for its F-16AM fleet?

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alphapapaoscaroscarindia wrote:
Also means it is very likely India will go for the Eurofighter in their MRCA selection ...


Only Eurofighter and Rafale remain in that competition, so no F-16IN for India.

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The aircraft are already at MLU standards right? What other upgrades could Taiwan be seeking for its F-16AM fleet?


How about an AN/APG-80 AESA radar?
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And F100-PW-229 power.
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So any of the more modern PW F100 series engines drop right into a Block 20 bird? APG-80 would be a nice radar to have in the nose. RACR or SABR would be another AESA option. I would go for color moving map displays, Scorpion HMD, and IRST sensor as well.
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The PW-229EEP would be the most powerful engine to install. The PW-232 didn't go into production and would require the inlet of any 'small-mouth' to be changed as well. With the F100-PW-229EEP it would be a straight drop-in upgrade. 29K MAX thrust and a 6,000 cycle overhaul.

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Has anyone ever upgraded their F-16AMs with the -229EEP?
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Nope. 200's were upgraded to 220E's AFAIK.
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